Was Miguel Angel Gonzalez an ELITE fighter?

[Azteca]

Stop beating around the bush and say it Az.

Alright.

He wasn't an elite fighter in my opinion.

[SkillspayBills]

Alright.

He wasn't an elite fighter in my opinion.

Ding Ding Ding, thank you for your honesty.

I can respect that Wiley believes he is an elite fighter, that is his opinion. However it is an opinion I highly disagree with and have to see how everyone else feels about it.

[Wiley Hyena]

Ding Ding Ding, thank you for your honesty.

I can respect that Wiley believes he is an elite fighter, that is his opinion. However it is an opinion I highly disagree with and have to see how everyone else feels about it.

I believe that he WAS an elite fighter. Yes I certainly do. 51-5 as a matter of fact, with the majority of his losses coming at the end of his career.

[Azteca]

I believe that he WAS an elite fighter. Yes I certainly do. 51-5 as a matter of fact, with the majority of his losses coming at the end of his career.

The only win of his that I was truly impressed was his win over Lamar Murphy.

[Wiley Hyena]

The only win of his that I was truly impressed was his win over Lamar Murphy.

Azteca, this thread evolved from skils argument that Tszyu never beat an "elite" fighter. I see Gonzales as elite. But, now you know why skils started this thread....he and Dios....in bed again.

[Azteca]

Azteca, this thread evolved from skils argument that Tszyu never beat an "elite" fighter. I see Gonzales as elite. But, now you know why skils started this thread....he and Dios....in bed again.

I didn't know that. In that case, I probably would of voted that he was an elite fighter just to piss them off.

[ThaHorseman]

Azteca, this thread evolved from skils argument that Tszyu never beat an "elite" fighter. I see Gonzales as elite. But, now you know why skils started this thread....he and Dios....in bed again.

And to this point you haven't been able to convince anyone that he has. It might be time to put your pride aside for a moment and re-think this.

[SkillspayBills]

I didn't know that. In that case, I probably would of voted that he was an elite fighter just to piss them off.

Lol why would I be pissed off. You must take the internet way to serious Az.

[Wiley Hyena]

And to this point you haven't been able to convince anyone that he has. It might be time to put your pride aside for a moment and re-think this.

Maybe you ought to re-think it and put your pride aside.

[ThaHorseman]

Maybe you ought to re-think it and put your pride aside.

It appears that more people agree with me on this one, so I'm feeling confident that my opinion is the correct one. The sad thing is that not many people will say Kostya wasn't great, but they just see that he never beat an elite fighter. Its not a knock on his career, but you just can't accept that you're wrong.