Will Cotto's Aggression Work Against Him?

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    Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
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    #81
    Originally posted by oldgringo
    How about the full 150 whatever thousand I have over there?

    40K is good too. I can feed my kids with 40K.
    LOL!! I just realized I don't even have 40,000.. How about...... 15,000. Makes more.. sense.. lol.

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    • Run
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      #82
      No way, not how I see it.

      That's his best chance. To just go ahead and try to break Mosley down with pressure and work to the body. He has the tools to do it as well as anyone.

      I think he's a good boxer Cotto is.........he has skill and can use footwork when he needs to. But he can't try and fight Mosley's fight by boxing with him...........because he'll lose ****ing rounds fast.

      The judges will be scoring Shane's jab because I know for a fact he's going to be tripling and quadrupling up on it the entire fight. Cotto can't get flatfooted and try and fight Mosley in the center of the ring boxing.........he needs to work Mosley into a corner like he does everyone else by being the best at cutting off the ring..........and pressuring him.

      He stands a great chance at making the fight interesting that way. Because I don't think he's on Mosley's level when it comes to boxing ability however.



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      • The Fix
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        #83
        Originally posted by Addison
        ****ing me in the ass?

        I do that **** way better..


        Your ego don't match your ability though, homie. Take it from ME.
        break a ni gga off, 300 grand.... kick some up, *****.

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        • freedom213
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          #84
          Originally posted by robjr
          it wont work.. only 2 oppononts to ever beat shane were naturally bigger guys.. and still they couldnt stop shane, just decision him..

          theres alot of talk about this fight being real close.. but its one of the few big fights that im very sure about the winner.. I truly dont see shane mosley losing this fight.

          even after cotto brings out the low blows lol...
          lots of talk about only bigger opponents give Mosley problems but I think too many people are focusing on this issue. Cotto's physical stature has probably always made him the shorter opponent but I think Cotto will prove he packs a big enough punch to at times push shane around and hurt him. Cotto gets next to zero credit for having boxing skills which he uses in most every fight. Cotto slips punches on the inside gets fighters circling and controls distance very well. He also is quicker than most of his opponents think and will move in and out getting punches off, not just bull.

          what I find interesting is how will Mosley fight Cotto? Will he try to counter and box, will he straight up rumble. If he finds brawling with Cotto isnt working can he go backwards against Cotto and give out more punishment than he receives? Definitely the closest fight I think of the big 3 and the most interesting/exciting.

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          • steptwome
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            #85
            Originally posted by freedom213
            lots of talk about only bigger opponents give Mosley problems but I think too many people are focusing on this issue. Cotto's physical stature has probably always made him the shorter opponent but I think Cotto will prove he packs a big enough punch to at times push shane around and hurt him. Cotto gets next to zero credit for having boxing skills which he uses in most every fight. Cotto slips punches on the inside gets fighters circling and controls distance very well. He also is quicker than most of his opponents think and will move in and out getting punches off, not just bull.

            what I find interesting is how will Mosley fight Cotto? Will he try to counter and box, will he straight up rumble. If he finds brawling with Cotto isnt working can he go backwards against Cotto and give out more punishment than he receives? Definitely the closest fight I think of the big 3 and the most interesting/exciting.

            I'll agree with that

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            • Addison
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              #86
              Cotto lunges with everything, sometimes he even runs in. Shane Mosley is a master of creating angles and openings allowing himself the ability to punch his opponent without making him vulnerable to return fire. As the ring put it; "..hitting Miguel Cotto is as easy as hitting a billboard with a snowball.." Lesser fighters than Shane Mosley have made it look EASY as **** to tee of on Cotto's head.. Imagine what a MASTER is going to do.

              Miguel is going to do most of Shane's work for him. Cotto will be walking into Shane's shots moving into the crosshairs ALL NIGHT. And Cotto will do so aggressively. That's what Miguel Cotto DOES.

              When Mosley initiates it's going to get even uglier..

              But this is about Cotto's aggression..


              Cotto is fundamentally vulnerable regardless of whether he's coming or going.

              Overall, he's going to do himself in with aggression in this fight because he's fighting Shane Mosley. Shane is a counterpuncher of the highest caliber. Specifically, Shane counters with explosive stuff when he gets hit hard, and Cotto hits pretty good.. Cotto is going to provide the perfect combination of powerful offense to activate Shane Mosley's wrath, and vulnerable defense and questionable chin to suffer the consequences.

              Exhibit A) The logistics of Cotto's offense, footwork, lack of head movement, and predictable combinations and preferred target area will make him the recipient of bad positioning, loss of balance, and nasty counterpunching.

              Exhibit B) The guy he's fighting LOVES to brawl and answers hard shots with shots just as hard if not harder.


              OK Gringo, your turn.

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              • oldgringo
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                #87
                Originally posted by Addison
                You always show up after the mindless assaults happen.. I lash out with equally low brow insults to stay on par in retaliation - and then you, the long winded emotional Cotto fan shows up.. I can set my watch by it..

                Don't act like you don't get off on reading my posts, darling.

                Then you proceed to make excuses.. It's all opinions coming from everyone, but you try to act like your **** is gospel.. HaHa.

                Gospel is what CeCe Winans does. I just gave you the bit of analysis that you were asking for. Whether it fulfilled what you were LOOKING for is a different story. What excuses did I make now? Specifically please.....

                To begin with the basis of everything you're saying is rooted in YOUR idea that Cotto is a better fighter than I think he is. Bullrushing works against the "T-cans and gutless wonders" I referred to. Did you not read that part???

                No no. Either you incorrectly typed what you REALLY meant to say or I just need to bring my comprehension level up. You said that Cotto has a low IQ and then followed that by saying, "because all he can do "bullrush in and throw to the body when his guy stops moving". Not only is that a crude, inaccurate description of how Cotto fights, but it also makes no sense, regardless of whether you think he has fought a bunch of "gutless wonders". The guy has fought plenty of tough, tough fighters...and at the end of the day he wins fights by adapting to his opponents. Not the mark of a ****** fighter.

                You've never heard you can't or shouldn't pressure a puncher??? DAMN!! I know you're young and **** but just exactly how long have you been around this sport? That is a Boxing MAXIM. Those are excellent exceptions to the rule but guess what - none of those guys have Miguel Cotto's CHIN. He does. Barkley/Hearns?? Get real.. The key to those fights was the jeri-curl toxicity in Tommy's cranium..

                It's not that I haven't heard that remark, or a similar phrase used before. You pretty much said that you can't, which is why I replied accordingly. This is a high profile fight and those fights I previously mentioned were too. There are SO many similarities between those fights, several more I could name, and this particular bout. Cotto is known for his fair chin and his excellent recuperative ability. Pryor was down/hurt half a dozen times in his career, ultimately coming back to win fights. Barkley had been hurt, stopped, what have you and came through with pressure to beat Hearns. List goes on.

                I'll be happy for you though if Miguel wins. I think you're one of the sharper cats around. If you blow this one I WILL be dissapointed in you, but I'll understand you're thinking with your heart instead of your head..


                It's all about living and dying with your fighter/team/whatever. I have been here for so long, I have seen everyone here be right and wrong on numerous occasions. Doesn't mean **** to me really. I wonder if you feel the same. It's fun to support a guy though (no ****). Watching Sweet Pete Whitaker and going through the ups and downs of James Toney & Evander Holyfields career are the things that made me love this sport.

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                • Addison
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by The Fix
                  break a ni gga off, 300 grand.... kick some up, *****.
                  Ex girlfriend how ya been? I see you still **** wit other ni ggas men..

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                  • Addison
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    WOW! I can't believe you actually spent 10 minutes on that..

                    Funny though.

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                    • Addison
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                      No way, not how I see it.

                      That's his best chance. To just go ahead and try to break Mosley down with pressure and work to the body. He has the tools to do it as well as anyone.

                      I think he's a good boxer Cotto is.........he has skill and can use footwork when he needs to. But he can't try and fight Mosley's fight by boxing with him...........because he'll lose ****ing rounds fast.

                      The judges will be scoring Shane's jab because I know for a fact he's going to be tripling and quadrupling up on it the entire fight. Cotto can't get flatfooted and try and fight Mosley in the center of the ring boxing.........he needs to work Mosley into a corner like he does everyone else by being the best at cutting off the ring..........and pressuring him.

                      He stands a great chance at making the fight interesting that way. Because I don't think he's on Mosley's level when it comes to boxing ability however.
                      Good post. I agree, it's Cotto's only real shot..

                      I just think he's damned either way.

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