Hatton v. Tszyu...the truth

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well, we've covered this exact subject before, Dios. I will repeat my response because the night is relatively young.

In order to erase my doubts about him, Floyd must win by KO or TKO (excluding early stoppage for Hatton cuts). A UD will do the trick only if its decisive. 116-112 may not get him there, to be honest, because that score leaves doubt prospectively about whether or not Floyd may have gotten a mid fight lead on points and just stayed away and outpointed. "Running" for a decision, if that's what you want to call it, will not do the trick for Floyd here. That kind of win will result in another ground swell of critisicm, not from just me, but many people in the boxing world. IF it happens, just watch and see.

But you would completely give Hatton credit for a 116-112 victory....right?

Didn't you agree to a "no excuses" pact?

Here is the flaw in your logic: You have said repreatedly that Hatton has the STYLE to beat Mayweather. Hatton, Graham, Oscar, et al have said that Hatton has the STYLE to beat Mayweather. So we ALL acknowledge that this fight is a "clash of styles".

So if Mayweather is able to come in and do the SAME thing to Hatton that he has done to others, then that means that FMJ was able to impose his style (essentially, his "will") on Hatton.

In much the way that Kelly Pavlik has beaten the past three guys the SAME way, Mayweather would have beaten the past three guys the SAME way. They were both able to control the fight, preventing the opponent from doing what he wants, and imparting his will onto the opponent.

You must give Mayweather full, 100% and complete credit for 115-113 x 3. Or just admit that you are biased.

[Wiley Hyena]

What if Ricky decisions Floyd?
Will you later talk about how he demolished him over 12 rounds?

You may think this is not being fair, but I believe the bar is higher for Floyd in this fight. If Ricky wins by any means, it will be hailed as a great victory over the self proclaimed greatest. I'm talking about the reality of the situation Floyd is faced with. Surely, Easy e, you can see this. Is it unfair? Maybe, maybe not. Hoping not to antagonize you, but, after all, Floyd has done this to himself with his big mouth and his choice of opponents after Castillo (excluding ODH and Baldomir...which I give him kudos for).

[Wiley Hyena]

You put no points where your mouth is. By the 8th you will have 10 times the amount of points. Little boy, BET ALL YOUR POINTS OR LEAVE THE SITE. If you have a problem with me calling you out for not manning up and being a little boy, leave the site kid.

No more response necessary for you. lol

[SkillspayBills]

No more response necessary for you. lol

Hmmm has the Coyote given up? You haven't fallen over the cliff of ******ity enough yet have you? I know you have more asinine statements to make,boy.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

You may think this is not being fair, but I believe the bar is higher for Floyd in this fight. If Ricky wins by any means, it will be hailed as a great victory over the self proclaimed greatest. I'm talking about the reality of the situation Floyd is faced with. Surely, Easy e, you can see this. Is it unfair? Maybe, maybe not. Hoping not to antagonize you, but, after all, Floyd has done this to himself with his big mouth and his choice of opponents after Castillo (excluding ODH and Baldomir...which I give him kudos for).

Wiley,

I will spare you the quotes from Ricky that say "no way" that he loses this fight. So, the bar is even for BOTH guys. Each guy has expressed 100% certainty.

If Ricky loses this fight, he is breaking a promise to all his fans.

[THe TRiNiTY]

This is to Wiley,

Why don't you give credit to Floyd for beating Zab Judah.. yet you give credit to Kostya Tszyu for beating Ruelas, Gonzalez, Chavez and Leija, ALL AFTER OSCAR BEAT THEM FIRST, and with the exclusion of Gonzalez, did it more impressively, each time.

[Wiley Hyena]

But you would completely give Hatton credit for a 116-112 victory....right?

Didn't you agree to a "no excuses" pact?

Here is the flaw in your logic: You have said repreatedly that Hatton has the STYLE to beat Mayweather. Hatton, Graham, Oscar, et al have said that Hatton has the STYLE to beat Mayweather. So we ALL acknowledge that this fight is a "clash of styles".

So if Mayweather is able to come in and do the SAME thing to Hatton that he has done to others, then that means that FMJ was able to impose his style (essentially, his "will") on Hatton.

In much the way that Kelly Pavlik has beaten the past three guys the SAME way, Mayweather would have beaten the past three guys the SAME way. They were both able to control the fight, preventing the opponent from doing what he wants, and imparting his will onto the opponent.

You must give Mayweather full, 100% and complete credit for 115-113 x 3. Or just admit that you are biased.

Well, look...a win is a win is a win. Yes, of course if Mayweather beats Hatton by any means he deserves credit. Surely. But, evidently we're talking about apples and oranges. I'm referring to Floyd being able to erase VALID criticism concerning him. It can be done in this fight, but it's gotta be decisive in the manner that I referred to above.

I'm not setting the rules here. I'm looking at the big picture. Mayweatherites say they don't understand the criticism that rages around Mayweather, but in fact most of them do. I'm talking about Floyd making his case as truly "the greatest." It will take a major performance to get him there. Does that clarify it?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

This is to Wiley,

Why don't you give credit to Floyd for beating Zab Judah.. yet you give credit to Kostya Tszyu for beating Ruelas, Gonzalez, Chavez and Leija, ALL AFTER OSCAR BEAT THEM FIRST, and with the exclusion of Gonzalez, did it more impressively, each time.

....and if Floyd gets no credit for beating Zab, then why is Miguel Cotto on the P4P list?

[RodBarker]

These threads are getting dumber by the minute ,, now Floyd must win a certain way or it dont count , geeez heard it all now ,,,, a boxing ring is not very big place fellas , your saying that if superman Hatton cant catch him while Floyd is doing a speed ball job on Rickys head it dont count but if Ricky got a hit and hold pts win that would count ,,, you guys are not boxing fans at all just Floyd haters and thats all your agenda is in these constant bash Floyd threads .

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well, look...a win is a win is a win. Yes, of course if Mayweather beats Hatton by any means he deserves credit. Surely. But, evidently we're talking about apples and oranges. I'm referring to Floyd being able to erase VALID criticism concerning him. It can be done in this fight, but it's gotta be decisive in the manner that I referred to above.

I'm not setting the rules here. I'm looking at the big picture. Mayweatherites say they don't understand the criticism that rages around Mayweather, but in fact most of them do. I'm talking about Floyd making his case as truly "the greatest." It will take a major performance to get him there. Does that clarify it?

Ok, I understand.

For Floyd to validate his claims of all-time greatness, he must not only squeak by hatton, but he must put on a performance.

The Patriots are getting credit this year because they are DOMINATING people. Not ekeing out 17-13 wins.

Floyd needs to uncork a Corrales-esque/Gatti-esque.

Cool?