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  • m00ks
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    #31
    Just to add,

    Marquez, Morales and Barrera are all featherweights along with Pacquiao. They all just moved up cuz their skill allowed them to compete in a division that lacked a deep talent pool.

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      #32
      Originally posted by m00ks
      Can you sum up the point of this thread cuz I'm a bit confused. Is this towards Pac for making excuses for not fighting Juan Diaz, but encouraging to go for David? Or is it to Pac for not fighting Juan since they weigh the same fight night?

      Check, whether it's against David or Juan, Pac would still be a blown up featherweight fighting at lightweight, period. Sure you can pack on muscle to weigh as much as the other guy but that's very different compared to somebody that naturally belongs in that weight class. Fact of the matter is, Juan can and proabably will move up to junior welterweight where as Pac could only joke about fighting at 140.

      Pac's best fighting weight is 126, no debate. He's not a natural 130lber and most certainly not a natural 135lber. To say he should move up to fight the Mayweathers is just ludicrous. If Mayweather called him out three times, would people call him a chicken?

      The point of the thread was to stimply point out the hypocrisy of certain pinoy users who say one tihng one minute, then completely flip it the next. Before Juan Diaz took center stage in his division after beating Julio Diaz, a certain group of users were all about Manny Pacquiao moving up to 135lbs to fight David Diaz for his title.

      Then all the focus shifted to Juan Diaz, and suddenly moving up is not a good idea for Pacquiao and he should stay at 130lbs.

      It has nothing to do with Mayweather, I was just pointing out a previous comedy thread of mine.

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        #33
        **** DAT k9 4 PREZ

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          #34
          Originally posted by m00ks
          Can you sum up the point of this thread cuz I'm a bit confused. Is this towards Pac for making excuses for not fighting Juan Diaz, but encouraging to go for David? Or is it to Pac for not fighting Juan since they weigh the same fight night?

          Check, whether it's against David or Juan, Pac would still be a blown up featherweight fighting at lightweight, period. Sure you can pack on muscle to weigh as much as the other guy but that's very different compared to somebody that naturally belongs in that weight class. Fact of the matter is, Juan can and proabably will move up to junior welterweight where as Pac could only joke about fighting at 140.

          Pac's best fighting weight is 126, no debate. He's not a natural 130lber and most certainly not a natural 135lber. To say he should move up to fight the Mayweathers is just ludicrous. If Mayweather called him out three times, would people call him a chicken?
          Thanks for articulating a point I've been trying to make to these inbreds.

          What I find hilarious is that Juan gets a dominating win over a guy who was nothing but some random champ that no one in boxing will remember 5-10years from now, and all these guys are gung-ho about Juan coming after a guy who is smaller than him. You spin the whole the thing around to these idiots of Juan taking on the likes of Hatton(who is only 5lbs up) and they don't even want to touch the subject(lmao)

          And for all you Twan fans, Hatton today is 29years old, has had his share of wars. Mab back in '03 was the same exact age as Hatton is when PAC trampled him. PAC was roughly around the same age as Juan is today. PAC did not fight a tune-up at 126lbs ala Mosley when he came after DLH and trampled him.

          I'd like to see if Juan's capable of doing the same thing that PAC has done in recent years. Which is move up weight classes and fight the divisions best. Not call out a lil great guy(lmao)

          Juan fighting Hatton, would be like PAC vs. MAB in '03. But the only difference is, Hatton gonna put a beating on that b*tch.
          Last edited by We want Floyd; 10-15-2007, 02:19 AM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Papa Ace
            Maybe you should have asked the Pacquiao fans here if they feel that way instead of immediately pposting such title. IMO Marquez and Juan Diaz are most dangerous fight for Manny right now. But Ill gladly have Manny Pac fight Diaz since it isnt as risky (in terms of reputation, if he ever lose) as the JMM rematch.
            Your first statement is correct. I probably should've named the thread "Pac nuthuggers are afraid of Juan Diaz" and not Pacfans. There's a big difference between a fan and a nuthugger as we all know. My bad on that part.

            And I appreciate your honesty about Marquez and Diaz being Pacquiao's toughest challenges. I think too many people are focusing on guys like Soto, Guzman, Valero and Katsidis to see the real great fights with Marquez and Diaz.

            Ultimately Pac will choose who he wants and whoever he picks is fine with me. If he wants a few more fights to build up to a fight with Juan at either 130 or 135, no big deal. He's earned it. It's not like I want him to move to 135 tomorrow. He should take his time and work his way into it.

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              #36
              Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
              Thanks for articulating a point I've been trying to make to these inbreds.

              What I find hilarious is that Juan gets a dominating win over a guy who is a mere footnote in boxing history and all these guys are gung-ho about Juan coming after a guy who is smaller than him. You spin the whole the thing around to these idiots of Juan taking on the likes of Hatton(who is only 5lbs up) and they don't even want to touch the subject(lmao)

              And for all you mexicans, Hatton today is 29years old, has had his share of wars. Mab back in '03 was the same exact age as Hatton is when PAC trampled him. PAC was roughly around the same age as Juan is today. PAC did not fight a tune-up at 126lbs ala Mosley when he came after DLH and trampled him.

              I'd like to see if Juan's capable of doing the same thing that PAC has done in recent years. Which is move up weight classes and fight the divisions best. Not call out a lil great guy(lmao)

              Juan fighting Hatton, would be like PAC vs. MAB in '03. But the only difference is, Hatton gonna put a beating on that b*tch.
              numerical age means **** in boxing. you should know that.

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                #37
                Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
                Thanks for articulating a point I've been trying to make to these inbreds.

                What I find hilarious is that Juan gets a dominating win over a guy who is a mere footnote in boxing history and all these guys are gung-ho about Juan coming after a guy who is smaller than him. You spin the whole the thing around to these idiots of Juan taking on the likes of Hatton(who is only 5lbs up) and they don't even want to touch the subject(lmao)

                And for all you mexicans, Hatton today is 29years old, has had his share of wars. Mab back in '03 was the same exact age as Hatton is when PAC trampled him. PAC was roughly around the same age as Juan is today. PAC did not fight a tune-up at 126lbs ala Mosley when he came after DLH and trampled him.

                I'd like to see if Juan's capable of doing the same thing that PAC has done in recent years. Which is move up weight classes and fight the divisions best. Not call out a lil great guy(lmao)

                Juan fighting Hatton, would be like PAC vs. MAB in '03. But the only difference is, Hatton gonna put a beating on that b*tch.
                I don't even bother to disect your posts and respond paragraph by paragraph anymore. You seem to dig around up your ass for excuses, insults and comparisons that aren't even based in reality. You then throw that gigantic wad of **** at the wall (in this case, the thread) and hope something sticks.

                You brought up Mexicans, Ricky Hatton, and Marco Antonio Barrera for what? It still doesn't dispute the fact that a mere matter of days ago you wanted Pacquiao at 135lbs to fight David Diaz. Then when the spotlight in that division was focused solely on Juan Diaz, you say Pac's bone density can never match up with Juan Diaz's? Are you his doctor?

                And to get you off my back so you won't keep posting the same old ****, I'd be all for Juan Diaz fighting Ricky Hatton. He'll eventually move up to Light Welter anyway in another few years. So if he wants to go there to **** it out with Ricky in another year or two, best of luck to him.

                You act like you want him to move up tomorrow to fight Hatton when he still has a prospective fight with Pacquiao upcoming.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 2501
                  numerical age means **** in boxing. you should know that.
                  Yeah, but Hatton's has had his share of tough fights too. Maybe not as thrilling as the one's EM and MAB have been in. but rough is rough homie. Collazo, Tszyu were all grueling fights for Hatton. It just wasn't exciting to watch, is the biggest difference.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    The point of the thread was to stimply point out the hypocrisy of certain pinoy users who say one tihng one minute, then completely flip it the next. Before Juan Diaz took center stage in his division after beating Julio Diaz, a certain group of users were all about Manny Pacquiao moving up to 135lbs to fight David Diaz for his title.

                    Then all the focus shifted to Juan Diaz, and suddenly moving up is not a good idea for Pacquiao and he should stay at 130lbs.

                    It has nothing to do with Mayweather, I was just pointing out a previous comedy thread of mine.
                    It's simple really. Pac has a better chance to beat David because Juan is just plain better. He still doesn't belong in that weight anyway you put it. Floyd fought for Gatti's belt rather than Cotto's or Hatton's.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by m00ks
                      It's simple really. Pac has a better chance to beat David because Juan is just plain better. He still doesn't belong in that weight anyway you put it. Floyd fought for Gatti's belt rather than Cotto's or Hatton's.
                      I realize it's just a matter of cherry picking the weakest opposition at this point in time. Why risk it all on Juan Diaz anyway, right? But I'm not being a critic of Pacquiao's opposition (not in this particular thread anyway), I'm being a critic of certain members of his fanbase.

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