Pacfans fear Juan Diaz

[We want Floyd]

I don't even bother to disect your posts and respond paragraph by paragraph anymore. You seem to dig around up your ass for excuses, insults and comparisons that aren't even based in reality. You then throw that gigantic wad of **** at the wall (in this case, the thread) and hope something sticks.

You brought up Mexicans, Ricky Hatton, and Marco Antonio Barrera for what? It still doesn't dispute the fact that a mere matter of days ago you wanted Pacquiao at 135lbs to fight David Diaz. Then when the spotlight in that division was focused solely on Juan Diaz, you say Pac's bone density can never match up with Juan Diaz's? Are you his doctor?

And to get you off my back so you won't keep posting the same old ****, I'd be all for Juan Diaz fighting Ricky Hatton. He'll eventually move up to Light Welter anyway in another few years. So if he wants to go there to **** it out with Ricky in another year or two, best of luck to him.

You act like you want him to move up tomorrow to fight Hatton when he still has a prospective fight with Pacquiao upcoming.

Where in my posts did I say PAC should move to 135lb and go straight at either the Diaz's, you won't find any.

I may have mentioned D. Diaz as being the weakest link w/ all the 135lb champs. But PAC has some great competition at 130lbs. No need to jump up to 135lb., not now atleast.

You accuse me of wanting to Twan to get it on w/ Hatton right this minute, while you do the same exact **** w/ PAC getting it on w/ Twan. talk about hypocrisy.

[ßringer]

Where in my posts did I say PAC should move to 135lb and go straight at either the Diaz's, you won't find any.

I may have mentioned D. Diaz as being the weakest link w/ all the 135lb champs. But PAC has some great competition at 130lbs. No need to jump up to 135lb., not now atleast.

You accuse me of wanting to Twan to get it on w/ Hatton right this minute, while you do the same exact **** w/ PAC getting it on w/ Twan. talk about hypocrisy.

You mentioned Pacquiao fighting David Diaz a number of times, and you are correct in saying you may have said he was the weakest link.

And I never said Pacquiao should go for Juan Diaz right this minute either, there you go assuming **** again. Want proof?

Ultimately Pac will choose who he wants and whoever he picks is fine with me. If he wants a few more fights to build up to a fight with Juan at either 130 or 135, no big deal. He's earned it. It's not like I want him to move to 135 tomorrow. He should take his time and work his way into it.

I'm assuming you love the taste of your foot, because you put it in your mouth quite often.

[m00ks]

I realize it's just a matter of cherry picking the weakest opposition at this point in time. Why risk it all on Juan Diaz anyway, right? But I'm not being a critic of Pacquiao's opposition (not in this particular thread anyway), I'm being a critic of certain members of his fanbase.

Well that's the name of the game. That's the reason there are promoters, matchmakers, handlers to pick opponents. There are countless of other examples. It's business. Anyweyz, I personally think theres no critique to be made of Pac's opposition. There's really no need to go up to lightweight right now. That would just be esthetics to his resume. There are at least 4-5 huge fights he can do at 130 and at least one superfight. They just gotta market it well. Just imagine if he wins vs JMM, Guzman beats Soto, and Valero beats Guzman, Pac-Valero would be HUGE with the right marketing.

Oh yea, ignore the PacMANIACS. It;s teh easiest way.

[We want Floyd]

You mentioned Pacquiao fighting David Diaz a number of times, and you are correct in saying you may have said he was the weakest link.

And I never said Pacquiao should go for Juan Diaz right this minute either, there you go assuming **** again. Want proof?



I'm assuming you love the taste of your foot, because you put it in your mouth quite often.

Funny, the whole weekend has been filled w/ threads started by you and numerous posts by you w/ nothing but eggin' on a fight between PAC vs. Twan. It's only now that you've mentioned that. Anyhow, how do you see a Hatton - Twan matchup if it were to happen now(lmao). How about a Cotto - Twan matchup if it were to happen now(lmao). How about a P. Williams - Twan matchup if it were to happen now(lmao). How about a Marg - Twan matchup if it were to happen now(lmao)

See, a few years back this was PAC's reality, moving up in weight, whoopin' the **** out of the divisions best. makin' em quit, makin' 'em turn down $750k , forcin' em to travel halfway across the world just to avoid him, sendin' folks to retirement.

PAC was doing his thing around the same age Twan is now. Move up twan, move up. Knuckle up and move up. no sense in staying around for a lil guy(lmao). That's funny, why would someone wait around for a lil guy to fight to prove you're the best. Did Lennox, Tyson, and Holyfield wait around for RJJ?

Every PAC hater says that all three FHOF were past their prime when PAC's fist smacked 'em upside their heads. Well, who else would you rank higher than EM, MAB, and JMM between 122-126lbs at the time PAC took 'em on.

[TomRiddle]

About a week ago I made a case that Pacquiao is ducking or afraid of fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr. The majority of responses were positive, with a few Pacfans unwilling to accept the cold hard facts that Pac weighs just 4lbs less than Mayweather. Since Mayweather is a Welterweight, they said that jump would be far too big for Manny to handle.

Even though other elite fighters have jumped up even higher amounts. Shane went from 135 to 147 for Oscar. Floyd went to 154 for Oscar. Winky went to 170 for Hopkins. RJJ went to 193lbs.

They also said.......




Let's examine this case study. Pinoys, get your pencils ready because you'll need to take notes if you want to stay on track, and stick with the facts.

Height

Pacquiao- Nearly 5'7"
Diaz- 5'6"

Weight in most recent fights

Pacquiao came in at 144lbs on the evening of Saturday, October 6th against Marco Antonio Barrera in a rematch.

Juan Diaz came in at 143lbs on the evening of Saturday, October 13th against Julio Diaz in a unification bout.

1 week apart from each other, Pac-144lbs Diaz-143lbs.

Now that Diaz has beaten Julio in impressive fashion, Pac fans seem to have gone back on their original word about where Manny belongs when it comes to matters of weight.

News article from 10/11/07



Yet Pac fans have this to say about Pac's supposed move up to 135lbs....



Posted by - MASGAGOMEXI



Posted by - JaNnO

These are just 2 of many examples of posts from pinoy users here about Pac moving up to 135lbs. Prior to the Diaz fight, they were all about him moving up to fight Diaz....David Diaz that is. A pushover, paper Champion who got spanked by Morales and got a bull**** hometown decision.

A move to 135lbs? To fight David Diaz for his belt? Go PAC!!!! What? Move to 135lbs to face Juan Diaz? All of a sudden Pac is incapable of making 135lbs........

This is not a hate thread. I'm simply pointing out the double standard/hypocrisy certain pinoy users are using in Pacquiao's defense now that Diaz has called out Pacquiao yet again.

I think it will look better for Juan to drop to 130lbs and spank Pacquiao in his "own" weight class anyway. Just pointing out the absurdity of certain members and how quickly they change what they say.

easy for you and the likes of you to say.

youre not a boxer after all.

:wt:

[-Mbandit-]

So how much does Hatton weigh in on fight night?The difference of Pac moving up in weight to fight Diaz is Pac weighs more than Diaz come fight night making a fight between them even.Whereas Hatton probably comes in at 153 or so fight night making him bigger than Diaz.

[SnoopySmurf]

Pretty soon people will be wondering why Pac isn't fighting at middleweight and why Hatton won't fight at heavyweight.

[flipside]

why should i be afraid im not the one in the ring.

and pac said he'll fight juan if the price is right

*intro bob barker

[-Hyperion-]

the pac fans are really delusional...i mean a sensible poster like ElPacman gets **** just because he accepts Pacquiao's limitations and thinks he cant beat everyone...........and he ddint just get hate from tools like joepal, mr nuthugger and those kind of jokes, he also got hate from regulars...

[baya]

personally, i think that juan would hand pac his first convincing loss in a LONG time.

since like when he got KO'd by a body shot, but not as bad.