Put Juan Diaz on the Pound 4 Pound list!

[Azteca]

Comparing Cotto to Bobby Pac is an insult. I'm not gonna' sit here and spew bull **** about him fighting a bunch of great current and ex-champs, but he has built a good resume thus far. Diaz looked more impressive in the ring tonight and in recent events than Pavlik has, bottom line in my book. I wont pretend like Pavlik doesn't have the bigger notch in his belt.

Maybe a little bit...but if his last name was something else you think he really would get the credit he gets now???

[Azteca]

I dont know man. We are coming from different backgrounds here but how has Juan looked better lately?

Pavlik knocked out Mckart, Zertuche, Miranda, and Taylor. That is pretty good in the space of 2 years... in my opinion.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Maybe a little bit...but if his last name was something else you think he really would get the credit he gets now???

He doesn't really get talked about him. I haven't seen more than a couple of comments here and there since his lost to Juan.

I dont know man. We are coming from different backgrounds here but how has Juan looked better lately?

Pavlik knocked out Mckart, Zertuche, Miranda, and Taylor. That is pretty good in the space of 2 years... in my opinion.

Looking better in the ring. McKart and Zertuche are slightly gorified journeymen, but competent nonetheless. Like I said, I wont pretend to say Diaz has a better record, but I'm also not going to suggest Pavlik has anything better than a decent record for himself at the moment.

I look at who has a better chance of continuing to climb the ranks, win more belts, make defenses, etc etc based upon their skills and what I've seen them do... I see Pavlik losing to JT if he actually gets some ring sense finally.... I don't see any major threats at this moment to Diaz other than himself.

[Azteca]

He doesn't really get talked about him. I haven't seen more than a couple of comments here and there since his lost to Juan.



Looking better in the ring. McKart and Zertuche are slightly gorified journeymen, but competent nonetheless. Like I said, I wont pretend to say Diaz has a better record, but I'm also not going to suggest Pavlik has anything better than a decent record for himself at the moment.

I look at who has a better chance of continuing to climb the ranks, win more belts, make defenses, etc etc based upon their skills and what I've seen them do... I see Pavlik losing to JT if he actually gets some ring sense finally.... I don't see any major threats at this moment to Diaz other than himself.

Agreed for the most part. Give Mckart a little bit more credit though. He's been a fav of mine for years.

But whatever...we have different viewpoints.

Your view on kess - zag?

[MightyMikeA]

Quitalino Freitas was ripe for the picking against a guy like Juan and Julio Diaz was fairly inactive since 2005. In no way shape or form do these two wins constitute being on the lb. for lb list....let's not get carried away here. I wouldn't even talk about comparing these wins to Pavlik's either. Miranda and the undisputed champ, JT are two of the biggest back to back wins in boxing that there have been in a while as far as I'm concerned.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Agreed for the most part. Give Mckart a little bit more credit though. He's been a fav of mine for years.

But whatever...we have different viewpoints.

Your view on kess - zag?

I don't care about either fighter. Joe has fought a sheltered career and his fans (as is the case w/ most boxers) drive me insane. I like Kessler's style. I have little personal interest or stock in who wins... but I would like to see Joe Blow lose so I can laugh at his fans on these boards.

I'd put money on Kessler if I had to. It will be up to Joe to prove himself against an actual live opponent for the first time in quite a while.

It's a pick 'em fight though.

[joepal]

Refer to my previous post. In my opinion P4P is more about a fighter's ability in the ring than the belts they hold or some fighters they may have/have not beaten.

The Pavlik I saw was a man with a decent chin, a strong punch, and hands as slow as old people ****ing. He should be thankful his rise to fame was after BHop had left the division; because the Executioner would've had a ****ing field day.

Didnt Pavlik just KO the guy whom Hopkins was afraid for twenty-four rounds?

You make no sense.

[Azteca]

I don't care about either fighter. Joe has fought a sheltered career and his fans (as is the case w/ most boxers) drive me insane. I like Kessler's style. I have little personal interest or stock in who wins... but I would like to see Joe Blow lose so I can laugh at his fans on these boards.

I'd put money on Kessler if I had to. It will be up to Joe to prove himself against an actual live opponent for the first time in quite a while.

It's a pick 'em fight though.

I got my money on Joe. I think it's going to be an easy fight.

[SkillspayBills]

lmao @ calderon being around 11-13.

Why wouldn't he be that high on the list, you can even make a case for him being in the top 10.

[SkillspayBills]

The reason i would put him in is because few fighters (Arce can also punch through out a whole fight) can throw so many punchs in the 12 round as in the 1st round. And Diaz win is a solid win. Im not into p4p list nor do i know where to rank him, but his is impressive and some like Diaz should be in p4p list. Few fighters throw so many punchs as he does and Diaz does this at the top level.

I didn't throwing a hell of a lot of punches warranted being on the p4p list. Make more of a case about this budd.