Put Juan Diaz on the Pound 4 Pound list!

[Dirt E Gomez]

Look man, Miranda wasn't fighting Eastman. He was fighting a 6'2'' monster. For the first time in his career he had to look up to someone. And he fought a guy who brought it.

And either way...

Pavlik beat the man at MW. Juan didn't do so.

Beating a lineal champion isn't an automatic reason to put people on a p4p list. Baldomir was a lineal champion. I'm not calling Pavlik a bum, but I'd probably not put him on my list before Diaz.

[ferocity]

For my lists, accomplishments are always 2nd to actual ability shown in the ring.

This is why i would like to see him in the p4p list.

[Azteca]

Beating a lineal champion isn't an automatic reason to put people on a p4p list. Baldomir was a lineal champion. I'm not calling Pavlik a bum, but I'd probably not put him on my list before Diaz.

Dude he beat the man at middleweight. He beat the undisputed king of the division for 10 years. Future HOFer Bernard Hopkins.

Baldomir beat a chump in Judah who won vacant belts and had belts given to him.

[PrtyBoyDlicious]

As mentioned by many he is relentless and is only going to get better. He amazes people that have seen some of the best through out the years. I think with this win and his highly skills, Juan deserves to be on the p4p list.

p4p my ass! juan=no power

Katisidis will kick his ass!

[Wiley Hyena]

Miranda did look weight drained. His punches lacked any pop them and i was one of these people that though Miranda would lose soon. He lost even sooner, in his next fight.

Well there's only 10 spots in the top ten p4p, and Pavlik should be there regardless of what Juan did tonight. However, I don't know why they couldn't make some room for Juan. Bernard Hopkins...for example..could be moved out IMO.

[ferocity]

p4p my ass! juan=no power

Katisidis will kick his ass!

Hey, waaazz zaaaapeneeeeenn mare-con.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Dude he beat the man at middleweight. He beat the undisputed king of the division for 10 years. Future HOFer Bernard Hopkins.

Baldomir beat a chump in Judah who won vacant belts and had belts given to him.

Heh, that is why it's up for debate. Jermain Taylor never convincingly beat anybody of note. Cory Spinks? Ouma? ****ing Joppy?

[Azteca]

Heh, that is why it's up for debate. Jermain Taylor never convincingly beat anybody of note. Cory Spinks? Ouma? ****ing Joppy?

Man you are running in circles.

If Pavlik beat Abraham would he of been higher in your rankings? Give the guy some credit. Pavlik beat the undisputed champ. Get over it.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Man you are running in circles.

If Pavlik beat Abraham would he of been higher in your rankings? Give the guy some credit. Pavlik beat the undisputed champ. Get over it.

If Pavlik fights and beats Abraham he'll sure as **** get higher. He beat one of the top two guys at middleweight... the problem is Taylor simply wasn't that great. Had he not gotten knocked down and actually won a UD I might've been more impressed. I'm not running circles. I'm making justifications while all you do is question me.

[Azteca]

If Pavlik fights and beats Abraham he'll sure as **** get higher. He beat one of the top two guys at middleweight... the problem is Taylor simply wasn't that great. Had he not gotten knocked down and actually won a UD I might've been more impressed. I'm not running circles. I'm making justifications while all you do is question me.

All you're doing is further proving my point. You said it yourself...he beat one of the top two guys at middleweight.

Did Juan Diaz beat a top two fighter at LW?