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  • Azteca
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    #111
    Originally posted by blackirish137
    I think Floyd will his credit when he starts to get old. Then he will become a kind of James Toney at the higher weight classes, get hit more often, and make more competitive full-contact fights.

    Personally I loved watching Pernell fight, and Floyd is fun to watch too. I think he'll get his long-lasting credit as time goes on.
    I liked Pernell also. He was outspoken at times but a showman.

    Floyd literally tries to SHOVE IT DOWN OUR THROAT that he is the best fighter on the planet.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Azteca
      That's great. I haven't even heard an opinion from you all this time on the board.

      Do you have an opinion. Or do you just like Floyd "cuz I iz black"?
      Sadly, the latter seems to be the case. As in most of the other Floyd fans in here.

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      • Azteca
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        #113
        Originally posted by sonofisis
        Seeing as how you brought it up, I'd beg to differ, but as noted, your opinion is trash so it doesn't matter..
        How do you live with yourself with all of that negative energy in your life?

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          #114
          Originally posted by blackirish137
          I think Floyd will his credit when he starts to get old. Then he will become a kind of James Toney at the higher weight classes, get hit more often, and make more competitive full-contact fights.

          Personally I loved watching Pernell fight, and Floyd is fun to watch too. I think he'll get his long-lasting credit as time goes on.
          Of course.. People don't remember media hype or disgruntled boxing fans complaining on some obscure web forum. 10 years from now they'll simply remember Floyd's resume and track record.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Azteca
            How do you live with yourself with all of that negative energy in your life?
            Right.. I'm so negative that I criticize negativity (like what seems to come from you and your sidecar companion, Joepal)..

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            • Azteca
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              #116
              Originally posted by sonofisis
              Right.. I'm so negative that I criticize negativity (like what seems to come from you and your sidecar companion, Joepal)..
              Right.

              Ok, let's hear your opinion.

              Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright. What were your thoughts on that bout?

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                #117
                Why get knocked out if your winning each round, why try to knock someone out if there loseing each round. Floyds approach is tactical and early in his career he was the guy to try and KO you, but he has evolved, into something most people dont like however he is winning and thats really what its all about! Right?

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Azteca
                  Right.

                  Ok, let's hear your opinion.

                  Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright. What were your thoughts on that bout?
                  Bernard did what he had to do and what he has been doing since the William Joppy fight. That's be crafty, avoid punches, and be dirty on the inside.. Winky's mistake was his aggression, where he'd leave him self open trying to hit Hopkins with jab after jab even when Hopkins easily avoided it. That isn't his style and he doesn't cut off the ring like a natural pressure fighter, nor is he athletic enough to keep Hopkins at bay. Boring fight, but dramatic at the same time and B-hop put on a good performance imo by using what he still had left to beat a very good fighter..

                  What did that have to do with anything?

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                  • Azteca
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by MoneyINC
                    Why get knocked out if your winning each round, why try to knock someone out if there loseing each round. Floyds approach is tactical and early in his career he was the guy to try and KO you, but he has evolved, into something most people dont like however he is winning and thats really what its all about! Right?
                    if you devalue your reign, over the long run, you ultimately are devaluing your asking price of those who pay to see you. or more to the point: Those who may very well stay away.

                    Legacy translates into dollars.

                    Sugar Ray Leonard was going to make a lot of money without taking on the challenges he did. He made MORE money by taking on those challenges.

                    Does Mayweather HAVE the opp out there for him that SRL had in the 80's? No. But there are more attractive matchups for him to take that would translate in to more money and as a side affect of that, builds value to his legacy.

                    I'm not a fan of Oscar De La Hoya, but like SRL, he could make lots of money taking on Pat Chapentier 3 times a year. But if that ALL he ever faced, eventually that cash cow gets milked dry. He knew that he had to start facing the Whitakers and Quartey's and Trinidads and Mosley's to A- make even MORE money. And B- to keep that fan insterest in him as a Championship level fighter who took on the bigger names.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Azteca
                      if you devalue your reign, over the long run, you ultimately are devaluing your asking price of those who pay to see you. or more to the point: Those who may very well stay away.

                      Legacy translates into dollars.

                      Sugar Ray Leonard was going to make a lot of money without taking on the challenges he did. He made MORE money by taking on those challenges.

                      Does Mayweather HAVE the opp out there for him that SRL had in the 80's? No. But there are more attractive matchups for him to take that would translate in to more money and as a side affect of that, builds value to his legacy.

                      I'm not a fan of Oscar De La Hoya, but like SRL, he could make lots of money taking on Pat Chapentier 3 times a year. But if that ALL he ever faced, eventually that cash cow gets milked dry. He knew that he had to start facing the Whitakers and Quartey's and Trinidads and Mosley's to A- make even MORE money. And B- to keep that fan insterest in him as a Championship level fighter who took on the bigger names.
                      Great post!

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