Hatton: "I'll Be On Him Like A Rash"

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  • Fox McCloud
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    #121
    Originally posted by tredh
    That "take the belt from the champ" statement is complete bull****. Because if that is the case the non title holding fighter is starting the fight off at a disadvantage which should not be the case. Too many people are starting to give fighters points just because they are aggressive. If you look at the rules of scoring fighters get points for AFFECTIVE AGGRESSION not INaffective aggression. There is a big difference. That take the belt **** is making it seem like if the champ wins 5 rounds and the other fighter wins 7 rounds just because the champ was the aggressor they should win based on that take the belt ****. Thats not fair if you lose you lose. There shouldn't be a biased for the champ just because. Everything should be equal going to the fight.
    God I agree with this... I hate the way American judges seem to have this mindset. It's like, in the case of a draw, give it to the champion. It is also rare that American judges give out 10-10 rounds, which is also very irritating.

    A boxing match is just a boxing match, regardless of who is the champion and who isn't. For real... how would you all feel if Floyd won the match against Hatton just because he is the champion, even though there were 6 clear rounds were for each fighter? You would probably abandon this champion gets the benefit of the doubt bull****.

    It just seems to be a nice one-liner that people use to dispute decisions against fighters they like, or in this case, to dispute decisions for fighters they hate.

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    • moofo
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      #122
      I think Hatton's problem with Collazo was he thought he could keep backing him up but he couldn't.
      Collazo was stronger than he anticipated and what is usually an advantage at 140 for hatton became nullified.
      Even though Collazo may lack serious punching power it doesn't mean he can't be strong physically.
      Fact is Hattton still won the fight.
      Close but he won.

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      • Mozza
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        #123
        Originally posted by tredh
        But from what I have seen of Hatton he always walks straight in and forward. But once he gets on the inside is when he steps to the side to throw his hooks to the body. I haven't seen him use angles and things like that from the outside to get inside. I have only seen him use angles once he is already on the inside.
        There was more or less no head movement on the way in which was unusual. I think Hatton can get close to orthodox fighters relatively trouble free but against even remotely talented southpaws he gets clocked with alarming regularity.

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        • eric maldonado
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          #124
          Originally posted by Mozza
          Of course sometimes the other fighter can prevent his opponent from carrying out a gameplan but in this case Hatton was walking straight forward constantly in what was a foolish, dangerous and amateurish tactic. It was a clear case of ignoring advice and only he knows why de did it.
          but hatton always fights like that the only difference in that fight was that hatton was fighting a bigger man

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          • deevel79
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            #125
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            God I agree with this... I hate the way American judges seem to have this mindset. It's like, in the case of a draw, give it to the champion. It is also rare that American judges give out 10-10 rounds, which is also very irritating.

            A boxing match is just a boxing match, regardless of who is the champion and who isn't. For real... how would you all feel if Floyd won the match against Hatton just because he is the champion, even though there were 6 clear rounds were for each fighter? You would probably abandon this champion gets the benefit of the doubt bull****.

            It just seems to be a nice one-liner that people use to dispute decisions against fighters they like, or in this case, to dispute decisions for fighters they hate.
            I once had an argument with a poster who claimed, that if fighter A throws 30 punches in a round, and lands 15, he should be awarded the round over fighter B who throws 100 and lands 40.

            What are your thoughts on that.

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            • eric maldonado
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              #126
              Originally posted by deevel79
              I once had an argument with a poster who claimed, that if fighter A throws 30 punches in a round, and lands 15, he should be awarded the round over fighter B who throws 100 and lands 40.

              What are your thoughts on that.
              it depends on what kind of punches are being landed

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              • tredh
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                #127
                Originally posted by Mozza
                There was more or less no head movement on the way in which was unusual. I think Hatton can get close to orthodox fighters relatively trouble free but against even remotely talented southpaws he gets clocked with alarming regularity.
                I disagree with your post. I say that because Hatton is known to take punishment. I think he is willing to take your punishment to try and dish out his own punishment. So far it has worked for very well for him. Even though I don't think its smart if it works it works. Hatton will probably only go back to the drawing board if he loses "If it ain't broke don't fix it" comes to mind.

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                • deevel79
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by eric maldonado
                  it depends on what kind of punches are being landed
                  Just say they were both throwing punches of equal damage.

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                  • deevel79
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by eric maldonado
                    it depends on what kind of punches are being landed

                    The other poster claimed that any fighter who lands at a higher percentage, should always be awarded the round.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by moofo
                      I think Hatton's problem with Collazo was he thought he could keep backing him up but he couldn't.
                      Collazo was stronger than he anticipated and what is usually an advantage at 140 for hatton became nullified.
                      Even though Collazo may lack serious punching power it doesn't mean he can't be strong physically.
                      Fact is Hattton still won the fight.
                      Close but he won.
                      CAN A CHAMPION FINISH A FIGHT BEING SLAPPED AROUND LIKE A LITTLE *****?

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