If Floyd Finishes Hatton and does it impressively......

[cortdawg25]

I wouldn't say Tszyu was over the hill. But I will if you say that Oscar is, because they were pretty much the same when they fought the two fighters in question. A tad bit faded, but clearly still really ****ing good.

But Floyd moved up in weight to fight Oscar and he didn't even weigh 154 lbs on fight night, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.

[moofo]

De La Hoya 34yrs old
Baldomir 35 yrs old
Arturo Gatti 33 yrs old
Sharmba Mitchell 35 yrs old

These are the ages of the fighters at the time they met Mayweather.
Clealry past their best.
The only fighter he has fought in his prime was Zab Judah.

[Fox McCloud]

But Floyd moved up in weight to fight Oscar and he didn't even weigh 154 lbs on fight night, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.

Yeah, I usually just give them that Tszyu wasn't shot... because I honestly don't know... and I would rather the debate not get shifted off course into a whether Tszyu was shot or not debate.

Floyd's resume is better than Hatton's even if Tszyu was prime IMO.

[moofo]

Whats all this importance with the WBC belt?
The belt means nothing when Arturo Gatti is in possesion of it for fux sake.
The alphabetty spaghetti belts are just trinkest these days.
Junior Witter holds the WBC belt.
Is he the best at 140?
NO!

[Fox McCloud]

De La Hoya 34yrs old
Baldomir 35 yrs old
Arturo Gatti 33 yrs old
Sharmba Mitchell 35 yrs old

These are the ages of the fighters at the time they met Mayweather.
Clealry past their best.
The only fighter he has fought in his prime was Zab Judah.

Taylor fought Hopkins and Wright, who are older than all of those fighters you listed, and he supposively has the best resume in boxing.

Hatton's signature win is older than all of them.

Cotto is fighting Mosley, who is older than all of them.

What's your point? I already said that you have to be old to be proven, and it's true.

[moofo]

The point is they were all past their best.

[Fox McCloud]

The point is they were all past their best.

Okay, you labeled the problem correctly. What's your solution?

Should fighters be required to guess which prospects are going to be absolutely great? They would also have to be out of their "green" period, but not yet over-the-hill, and still have a few signature wins.

Sounds pretty damn impossible.

[moofo]

Why don't the prospects fight each other like they used to?
I can handle Floyd and co fighting the Old guard.
What I can't handle is Floyd and his followers spouting **** that he is P4P king and that he is the greatest blah blah blah.
He isn't fit to wipe the Boots of Sugar Ray Robinson.
He has plenty of prospective challengers out there who are younger and hungrier than the likes of Oscar who are out for the payday.
I am a fan of Ricky Hatton I must admit but I can openly criticise his fights.
He was lucky to pull through against Collazo.
He gassed out against Urango.

The thing with Floyd is NOBODY icluding himself or his fans will accept he isn't what the hype machine makes him out to be.
He won the WBC belts but he hasn't faced the best opposition.
And how often has he defended his trinkets against any other prospects?
A true Champ takes on all-comers!

[cortdawg25]

De La Hoya 34yrs old
Baldomir 35 yrs old
Arturo Gatti 33 yrs old
Sharmba Mitchell 35 yrs old

These are the ages of the fighters at the time they met Mayweather.
Clealry past their best.
The only fighter he has fought in his prime was Zab Judah.

Tell that to Bernard Hopkins and youth doesn't equate to prime

[cortdawg25]

Whats all this importance with the WBC belt?
The belt means nothing when Arturo Gatti is in possesion of it for fux sake.
The alphabetty spaghetti belts are just trinkest these days.
Junior Witter holds the WBC belt.
Is he the best at 140?
NO!

He just might be, Hatton won't fight him to find out.