State a reason why Boxing is better than the UFC

[NAPO]

Dude, I know how much it takes to box (my gramps and dad were both professional boxers), and I also know how much it takes to even be able to fight at the level of the UFC. Do you think Black belts in BJJ are just given away? Do you think you can become a D-1 freestyle wrestler with little effort? Do you think being one of the top kickboxers' in the world is a walk in the park? Do you believe placing in the Olympics in Greco-Roman wrestling is easy? Tank Abbott and all the other street fighters' got eliminated from the UFC a long while ago. To survive in the UFC, you actually have to be very gifted in at least one core martial art.

I think you misread my last comment in regards to boxing, I'll make it explicitly clear what I meant. Boxing takes a tremendous amount of skill to succeed in it, in fact it takes a lot of skill to do half-way decent. However, having been with my dad through his career and seeing a lot other peoples' fights first hand, I can tell you there are boxers' who have no talent and no skill that are considered boxers (or at least, they technically are). Technically, you don't need skill to box at the amateur level, and some have even got away with becoming pro with no skill; but to become remotely successful you have to have skills in boxing. The same can and is true with fighting in the UFC. Period.

ok i respect ur point cuz u gave good points but one question?? because i don't know that much about ufc or mma give me a % of fighters that have a profesional or certification brackground that are fighting right now im curious??

[FluugMacMan]

ok i respect ur point cuz u gave good points but one question?? because i don't know that much about ufc or mma give me a % of fighters that have a profesional or certification brackground that are fighting right now im curious??

Sure, give me a little time, I'll pull up the list of UFC fighters' with creds.

[FluugMacMan]

Jens Pulver - Pro boxer

Anderson Silva - Pro boxer, BJJ Black Belt, Brazil's MT Champion.

Randy Couture - Four time World Team member, Placed 9th in the 1997 World Championship in Poland, Pan American Games champion, Four time National Champion in Greco-Roman, three time All-American in college, two time runner-up at NCAA National Championships. Alternate for the Olympic team 4 times. Unknown belt rank in BJJ, but has been practicing for 15 years (assumed to be a BB)

Matt Serra - BJJ Black Belt

Brandon Vera - 2x Pan-American Champion, Abu-Dhabi veteran, 8x Grapplers Quest Champion, W.K.A. Muay Thai National champion, Lloyd Irvin Brown Belt.

Sean Sherk - D-1 Wrestler and extensive BJJ (thought to have a BB due to his BJJ domination of other BB)

Gray Maynard - Wrestling - 2x State Champion, High School National Champion, 3x Div. 1 NCAA All American

Manny Gamburyan - Eight-time junior national judo champion, 2000 judo junior world team

Hermes Franca - Black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, WEC lightweight champion, HooknShoot world champion, World Extreme Fighting world champion, NAGA grappling champion, numerous jiu-jitsu championships including Pan-American Games, Florida Championships, and Brazilian Nationals.

Kenny Florian - BJJ Black Belt under Roberto Maia. I am a Pan-American BJJ medalist, NAGA BJJ Superfight Champion, Grapplers Quest Superfight champion, 2002 US Grappling Pro 8-man champion, 2002 Copa Atlantica BJJ Champion, 2x Mass Destruction MMA Superfight Champion.

Nate Diaz - Purple belt in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu

Matt Hughes - Two-time state champion at Hillsboro High School, a High School All-American, and a four-time collegiate All American at Lincoln Community College and Eastern Illinois University. Middleweight Advanced Champion at the 2002 Grapplers Quest West Championships (2/23/02).

Dan Henderson - Current PRIDE Middleweight and Welterweight Champion (1st fighter in history to hold both belts simultaneously), 1992 and 1996 United States Olympic Greco-Roman Wrestling team member, 1988 USA Junior Freestyle champion, 1988 USA Junior Greco-Roman champion, 3-time USA Senior Greco-Roman champion, 3-time USA University Greco-Roman champion, 1990 USA FILA Junior World Greco-Roman champion, 1990 Amateur Wrestling News Freshman All-American, 1990-91 U.S. Olympic Festival champion, 1991 and 1993-94 University Nationals champion, 1993-94 U.S. Nationals champion, UFC 17 middleweight tournament winner, RINGS 1999 King of Kings Absolute tournament winner,

Matt Hamill - three time NCAA national wrestling champion and two time world champion for freestyle wrestling

Travis Lutter - BJJ BB, Hook-n-Shoot 205-pound champion and world submission champion.

Dean Lister - 4X National Machado Jiu Jitsu Champion (weight class and open classes)/ 2X National Sambo Champion/ KOTC Middleweight champion/ National Gracie Jiu Jitsu Champion/ North American Qualifier ADCC 2003 Absolute Champion in ADCC/2005 Superfight Champion in ADCC, BJJ BB.

Chuck Liddell - kickboxing record of 20 and 2 and has held the USMTA North American Heavyweight title and the IKF National Heavyweight title. IFC Light Heavyweight champion. Purple belt in jiu-jitsu under John Lewis.

Ryoto Machida - Karate: Brazilian Champion twice, and 2nd in South American Championship. BJJ BB.

Nate Marquardt - Blackbelt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, 2nd deg blackbelt Pancrase MMA/Jiu-Jitsu. 7 times King of Pancrase/ 1st middleweight King of Pancrase/ Pancrase 2002 Spirit Tour Champion, Pancrase Trans Tournament Champion/ Bas Rutten Invitational Middleweight Tournament Champion, Ring of Fire Middleweight Champion/ I.M.A. Rumble in the Rockies Tournament Champion

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira "Minotauro" - BJJ BB, WEC Title in 1999, Rings 16 man tournament 2000, and Pride Heavyweight Belt.

Karo Parisyan - Judo Black Belt, Grappling World Black Belt Judo International Champion/ Pan American Judo Silver Medalist/ BJJ National Champion.

BJ Penn - the most decorated jiu-jitsu athlete in America. I am the first non-Brazilian to win the world championships at the black belt level.

Sam Stout - TKO World LW Champion. IKF North American Welterweight Kickboxing champion. Canadian lightweight Muay Thai champion.

Andrei Arlovski - In 1999 got the second place (silver medal) at the SAMBO World Cup and the second place at the World SAMBO Championship. He became first Master of Sport, and then International Master of Sport. After winning the Sambo championships, he started competing in mixed martial arts and won the European Mixed Fighting championship.

Michael Bisping - Cage Warriors world champion, FX3 world champion, former Cage Rage British champion, three-time British super heavyweight kickboxing champion, Silver medalist in jiu-jitsu world championships at 16.

Stephan Bonner - Ironheart Crown light heavyweight champ/Total Fight challenge light heavyweight champ / 2002 and 2004 Chicago Golden Gloves Super Heavyweight Champ.

Jon Fitch - Purple belt in Jiu Jitsu under Dave Camarillo, MMA Mexico WW World Champ (won the belt in a one night eight man tourney, stopped all three opponents, and was sick with mono at the time). 2002 Purdue Wrestling Team Captain/ 2002 Purdue wrestling Most Dedicated Big Ten Conference Scholar-Athlete Award winner/ 4 year letter winner in wrestling at Purdue University/ Junior National Indiana Freestyle team

I think about 90-95% of the fighters in the UFC have creds., the other 5-10% are kinda freestyle fighters that take some moves out of every discipline and don't have a purple belt or higher in any one martial art, but generally have a lot of natural talent to take the edge off of the lack of excelling.

[robjr]

boxing doesnt have guys feeling eachother out on the ground.

I only watch UFC if a good striker is fighting and if its standup mostly, ground fighting/grappling bores me to hell...

st.pierre,loiseau, anderson silva... a few others..

[mrpain81]

I was a huge fan of MMA, but lately I've lost interest.

I don't necessarily think boxing is "better", but I am more interested in it.

Also, I'm not a fan of Dana White really. He is very unprofessional when it comes to business.

Welcome to the dark side

**** Dana White (I can say that here and not get banned)

[BmoreBrawler]

Boxing is not any "better" or "worse" than UFC other than a matter of personal preference. I would say that the average UFC match is more entertaining than the average boxing match, though Boxing's best matches whore almost anything MMA can produce.

Soft, large gloves allow for more epic battles.

[mrpain81]

By the Way Ive been a huge MMA fan since UFC 1, They showed highlights on Spanish TV of how brutal this new sport was. Anybody that loved the movie "Blood Sport" Became a fan of the "New" NHB fighting.

But latelly after pride went under and all there hasnt been any consistent champions in UFC. Its become a crap shoot. I still stream them, but Boxing Is always my first love.

[Drunken Cat]

It's better to be GREAT in ONE aspect, then just pretty decent in a couple.

THere are many olympians (including medalists) in there respective sports in MMA so this is inacurate.

[Drunken Cat]

Jens Pulver - Pro boxer

Anderson Silva - Pro boxer, BJJ Black Belt, Brazil's MT Champion.

Randy Couture - Four time World Team member, Placed 9th in the 1997 World Championship in Poland, Pan American Games champion, Four time National Champion in Greco-Roman, three time All-American in college, two time runner-up at NCAA National Championships. Alternate for the Olympic team 4 times. Unknown belt rank in BJJ, but has been practicing for 15 years (assumed to be a BB)

Matt Serra - BJJ Black Belt

Brandon Vera - 2x Pan-American Champion, Abu-Dhabi veteran, 8x Grapplers Quest Champion, W.K.A. Muay Thai National champion, Lloyd Irvin Brown Belt.

Sean Sherk - D-1 Wrestler and extensive BJJ (thought to have a BB due to his BJJ domination of other BB)

Gray Maynard - Wrestling - 2x State Champion, High School National Champion, 3x Div. 1 NCAA All American

Manny Gamburyan - Eight-time junior national judo champion, 2000 judo junior world team

Hermes Franca - Black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, WEC lightweight champion, HooknShoot world champion, World Extreme Fighting world champion, NAGA grappling champion, numerous jiu-jitsu championships including Pan-American Games, Florida Championships, and Brazilian Nationals.

Kenny Florian - BJJ Black Belt under Roberto Maia. I am a Pan-American BJJ medalist, NAGA BJJ Superfight Champion, Grapplers Quest Superfight champion, 2002 US Grappling Pro 8-man champion, 2002 Copa Atlantica BJJ Champion, 2x Mass Destruction MMA Superfight Champion.

Nate Diaz - Purple belt in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu

Matt Hughes - Two-time state champion at Hillsboro High School, a High School All-American, and a four-time collegiate All American at Lincoln Community College and Eastern Illinois University. Middleweight Advanced Champion at the 2002 Grapplers Quest West Championships (2/23/02).

Dan Henderson - Current PRIDE Middleweight and Welterweight Champion (1st fighter in history to hold both belts simultaneously), 1992 and 1996 United States Olympic Greco-Roman Wrestling team member, 1988 USA Junior Freestyle champion, 1988 USA Junior Greco-Roman champion, 3-time USA Senior Greco-Roman champion, 3-time USA University Greco-Roman champion, 1990 USA FILA Junior World Greco-Roman champion, 1990 Amateur Wrestling News Freshman All-American, 1990-91 U.S. Olympic Festival champion, 1991 and 1993-94 University Nationals champion, 1993-94 U.S. Nationals champion, UFC 17 middleweight tournament winner, RINGS 1999 King of Kings Absolute tournament winner,

Matt Hamill - three time NCAA national wrestling champion and two time world champion for freestyle wrestling

Travis Lutter - BJJ BB, Hook-n-Shoot 205-pound champion and world submission champion.

Dean Lister - 4X National Machado Jiu Jitsu Champion (weight class and open classes)/ 2X National Sambo Champion/ KOTC Middleweight champion/ National Gracie Jiu Jitsu Champion/ North American Qualifier ADCC 2003 Absolute Champion in ADCC/2005 Superfight Champion in ADCC, BJJ BB.

Chuck Liddell - kickboxing record of 20 and 2 and has held the USMTA North American Heavyweight title and the IKF National Heavyweight title. IFC Light Heavyweight champion. Purple belt in jiu-jitsu under John Lewis.

Ryoto Machida - Karate: Brazilian Champion twice, and 2nd in South American Championship. BJJ BB.

Nate Marquardt - Blackbelt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, 2nd deg blackbelt Pancrase MMA/Jiu-Jitsu. 7 times King of Pancrase/ 1st middleweight King of Pancrase/ Pancrase 2002 Spirit Tour Champion, Pancrase Trans Tournament Champion/ Bas Rutten Invitational Middleweight Tournament Champion, Ring of Fire Middleweight Champion/ I.M.A. Rumble in the Rockies Tournament Champion

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira "Minotauro" - BJJ BB, WEC Title in 1999, Rings 16 man tournament 2000, and Pride Heavyweight Belt.

Karo Parisyan - Judo Black Belt, Grappling World Black Belt Judo International Champion/ Pan American Judo Silver Medalist/ BJJ National Champion.

BJ Penn - the most decorated jiu-jitsu athlete in America. I am the first non-Brazilian to win the world championships at the black belt level.

Sam Stout - TKO World LW Champion. IKF North American Welterweight Kickboxing champion. Canadian lightweight Muay Thai champion.

Andrei Arlovski - In 1999 got the second place (silver medal) at the SAMBO World Cup and the second place at the World SAMBO Championship. He became first Master of Sport, and then International Master of Sport. After winning the Sambo championships, he started competing in mixed martial arts and won the European Mixed Fighting championship.

Michael Bisping - Cage Warriors world champion, FX3 world champion, former Cage Rage British champion, three-time British super heavyweight kickboxing champion, Silver medalist in jiu-jitsu world championships at 16.

Stephan Bonner - Ironheart Crown light heavyweight champ/Total Fight challenge light heavyweight champ / 2002 and 2004 Chicago Golden Gloves Super Heavyweight Champ.

Jon Fitch - Purple belt in Jiu Jitsu under Dave Camarillo, MMA Mexico WW World Champ (won the belt in a one night eight man tourney, stopped all three opponents, and was sick with mono at the time). 2002 Purdue Wrestling Team Captain/ 2002 Purdue wrestling Most Dedicated Big Ten Conference Scholar-Athlete Award winner/ 4 year letter winner in wrestling at Purdue University/ Junior National Indiana Freestyle team

I think about 90-95% of the fighters in the UFC have creds., the other 5-10% are kinda freestyle fighters that take some moves out of every discipline and don't have a purple belt or higher in any one martial art, but generally have a lot of natural talent to take the edge off of the lack of excelling.

Nice post.. another is Antonia Rogerio Noguerra who recently took 3rd in the Pan-am games in boxing, super heavyweight division (only loss a low scoring match against the cuban) after winning the South American games.

Not bad for a guy renowned for his Jujitsu.

[kerrminator]

Boxers dont spend all night hugging on the mat