Is Floyd Past His Prime?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Because, IMO, a straight jab is thrown when the fighters are at a distance. Floyd is relaxed and lets his right hand down.

He does relax at distance because he SEEMS to have the confidence of his reflexes. When he is crowded, he clams up.right glove on right cheek, left bicep on ribs, shoulder up, left glove across chest.

Has PBF ever been hit with an uppercut of note?

[Wiley Hyena]

I concur. Hattons arms are about as long as Floyds fingers.
This fight might be closer if Hatton was as big as Floyd, but hes not.

Well, Floyd is taller with a reach advantage. However, he's naturally lighter and smaller boned that Hatton. Hatton walks around at 180 from what I've heard, and contrary to what Dios says, that's not all baby fat. There's a definite strength issue here. Definite.

[crillz]

Floyd is in no shape, way or form past his prime regardless of weight. no need to write no book this time, this one is quick and simple.. "Is Floyd Past His Prime? NO.. 100

[Fox McCloud]

Well, Floyd is taller with a reach advantage. However, he's naturally lighter and smaller boned that Hatton. Hatton walks around at 180 from what I've heard, and contrary to what Dios says, that's not all baby fat. There's a definite strength issue here. Definite.

There was a definate strength issue with Gatti too... you have to put the leather on your opponent for a strength advantage to matter. That's why the short arms argument is a prerequisite for your strength argument to have any relevancy to this fight.

[Wiley Hyena]

He does relax at distance because he SEEMS to have the confidence of his reflexes. When he is crowded, he clams up.right glove on right cheek, left bicep on ribs, shoulder up, left glove across chest.

Has PBF ever been hit with an uppercut of note?

If he was, it was nothing of note. Not that I can remember anyway. I don't see the uppercut working against the Floyd I've seen. Now it may develop in the fight, if for instance he gets tired and starts bending over. But, usually Floyd's posture is almost designed to prevent the uppercut. IMO

[Fox McCloud]

He does relax at distance because he SEEMS to have the confidence of his reflexes. When he is crowded, he clams up.right glove on right cheek, left bicep on ribs, shoulder up, left glove across chest.

Has PBF ever been hit with an uppercut of note?

Unless it was against Miguel Melo, Larry O'Shields, Gustavo Cuello or Sam Girard, no... because those are his only fights I haven't seen, and there hasn't even been a grazing uppercut that hit Floyd. Nothing even close.

[shawn_]

The shell is pretty much uppercut proof. I've never been hit with an uppercut while in the shell.

[Wiley Hyena]

There was a definate strength issue with Gatti too... you have to put the leather on your opponent for a strength advantage to matter. That's why the short arms argument is a prerequisite for your strength argument to have any relevancy to this fight.

I see what you're saying Dwiens. I'm not writing it off. But, really...Hatton cannot be compared to the Gatti that fought Floyd. Really, Gatti was truly shot...he couldn't pull the trigger, he couldn't get inside. It was sad, because Gatti used to really be good, maybe not top top flight, but he was damn good. Hatton, on the other hand is different animal altogether. IMO

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well, Floyd is taller with a reach advantage. However, he's naturally lighter and smaller boned that Hatton. Hatton walks around at 180 from what I've heard, and contrary to what Dios says, that's not all baby fat. There's a definite strength issue here. Definite.

well, A lean, ripped Hatton is at 152-ish. A lean, ripped Floyd is at 148-ish.

Agreed?

Last week, during the pressers, Hatton said he was 166. And we all saw the pudginess and double chin.

Hatton couldn't really muscle around Collazo or Urango. Or even Castillo. I saw PARTS of the Maussa fight, but it seemed CM was as rough with Rick as vice versa. So, I do not think RH is freakishly strong. By contrast, while PBF CERTAINLY didn't muscle DLH or Baldo, nor was he pushed around by them either.

It is that observation that makes me inclined to say that Hatton isn't bringing in any significant strength advantage.

[Wiley Hyena]

The shell is pretty much uppercut proof. I've never been hit with an uppercut while in the shell.

Agreed. Totally.