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    #151
    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
    And it is just that.

    we are all huge boxing fans. We watch a lot (too much) boxing.

    Over the past twenty years, name the top fighters in their prime who got stopped by a bodyshot.

    GO.
    Well you shouldn't be asking the rookie *****, but I'll try my best, I'm adding prime to that criteria so I don't have to list people like Sharmba Mitchell...

    Virgil Hill by Roy Jones

    That's all I've got.

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      #152
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      I see what you mean...but regarding Baldomir...I don't want to get under your skin here, but I saw Baldomir standing in the middle of the ring saying, "C'mon, let's fight." Floyd wouldn't. That's what I was referring to as not being encouraging. Don't counter me with details here because you know what I'm talking about. Do you think that will happen with Hatton?
      That probably won't happen with Hatton... we can be sure Floyd is going to win the fight if that does happen though. Saying "Come on, let's fight" to your opponent tells me that you have tried absolutely everything to get your offense going in the fight, and you can't, so your last ditch effort is to try to mock your opponent into giving you a chance back into the fight.

      The Baldomir fight was encouraging to me too... it showed me that Floyd doesn't lose his head when he is taunted. It also shows me that he can box and move like a beast.

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        #153
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        But will it be at 147? Question of the day.

        I have never heard described as a one-punch KO artist though... and I think that's what Dios was referring to. He was saying that Ricky has a puncher's chance, and that puncher's chance is relatively small, because Ricky has never been the guy who ends fights with one, skull-shattering blow.

        A body shot, on the other hand, doesn't need a plethora of power to knock someone out. So even if Hatton is getting outclassed, that is his golden ticket in the fight.
        Have to disagree with the body shot statement. Ricky's got plenty of power. More than Floyd. Let's leave it at that. And, he's got a great chin. And, he's got very fast hands.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
          I see what you mean...but regarding Baldomir...I don't want to get under your skin here, but I saw Baldomir standing in the middle of the ring saying, "C'mon, let's fight." Floyd wouldn't. That's what I was referring to as not being encouraging. Don't counter me with details here because you know what I'm talking about. Do you think that will happen with Hatton?
          It wouldn't annoy me at all. Do you remember Hagler telling Leonard "fight me, you *****"? And SRL stayed on his bike and kept flurrying.

          Smart fighters fight winning fights. They fight THEIR fight. Not get drawn in by the other guy or the crowd.

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            #155
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            And it is just that.

            we are all huge boxing fans. We watch a lot (too much) boxing.

            Over the past twenty years, name the top fighters in their prime who got stopped by a bodyshot.

            GO.
            Oscar De La Hoya....

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              #156
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              Oscar De La Hoya....
              I even saw that ****ing fight... what is wrong with me? B-HOP!

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                #157
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                Well you shouldn't be asking the rookie *****, but I'll try my best, I'm adding prime to that criteria so I don't have to list people like Sharmba Mitchell...

                Virgil Hill by Roy Jones

                That's all I've got.
                It just doesn't happen to top guys. That CAN NOT be your gameplan.

                It happens to guys like Bruseles and Dorin... or older guys like Hill or Castillo.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                  Oscar De La Hoya....
                  ding ding ding. We have a winner.

                  and that is how rare it is for that to happen to a top guy.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    It wouldn't annoy me at all. Do you remember Hagler telling Leonard "fight me, you *****"? And SRL stayed on his bike and kept flurrying.

                    Smart fighters fight winning fights. They fight THEIR fight. Not get drawn in by the other guy or the crowd.
                    I don't want to get caught up in the Baldomir thing. My point was that simply pointing to Collazo and Urango is a little bit of a cop out. Hatton won those fights. What is it you're trying to prove? That Hatton can have off nights? I simply point to all his fights to support my contention that he's got more than just a puncher's chance in this fight. I could point to Floyd's bad nights, ie..Oscar, Castillo I. What would I prove? Floyd can have bad nights, too. So what? The issue is Hatton v. Mayweather now.

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                      #160
                      They need to do a Playboy spread of the DWTS girls. They have some fine ****ing bodies.

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