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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #81
    Originally posted by C.Y.
    the guys you mentioned in your post would all beat zoo
    Really? Tszyu beat Vernon Forrest. Forrest whipped the **** ouf of Mosely. Uhh....a rational conclusion: Tszyu beats Mosely. [at 140]

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    • RodBarker
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      #82
      KT really has fought nobody of real status at the time he fought them , he biggest marquee fighters , were

      Chavez - was shot and had lost 2 off his previous 5 and was destroyed by ODH way earlier , he was fed 5 nobodys after KT and retired , his last 5 opponents had 15 losses out of 30 .

      Roger Mayweather - went the distance with KT ,, Roger was KOed by Ray Lavato 4 fights before KT , he was a veteran journey man way passed his use by date , Locky Lockridge also KOed Roger in his prime , KT went the distance ,, Roger has also said many times Floyd is class above what he was .

      KT beat Forrest at amateur which is way different than the pros ,, Forrest would knock him out now at welter where they fight , Forrest is 154 now .

      Livingston Bramble - had lost his 4 previous fights when he faced KT ,, was also a washed up now journeyman loosing 15 of his last 20 fights . KT went the distance with Bramble ,,,, Shannon Taylor KOed Bramble in 1 round .

      Juan La Porte - was a featherweight champion 6 yrs before he fought KT , and was beaten at featherweight 2 fights before KT and at 10 pds heavier than his best weight still went the distance with KT .

      Jake the Snake - lost his last 6 out of 8 by KO ,, KT was one of them , another decent fighter at the end of his career .

      Pineda - was nobody and had not fought outside of columbia , was brought out to Aus to lose .

      Hernandez - only fought one other name fighter in Chavez and got stopped , his career wins were against cans .

      Calvin Grove - was stopped in his previous 2 prior to fighting KT , retired after KT fight , his career was built at lightweight .

      Ruelas - his fights before KT , 8 opponents had 19 win and 28 losses ,, he was also stopped in 2 by ODH at lightweight 3 yrs earlier .

      As you can see all his early name fighters had little left , and at the time and were just resume builders .

      His latest fights were against good fighters but not near the class of ODH Mosley Trinidad Jones Pacman Cotto ,, any elite status in prime fighters are missing from Kostyas resume .

      I believe Kostyas best win hands down was Gonzales , brilliant boxing that night with KT in the zone ..

      Good fighter but his resume dont read like a legend , then on top he got beat badly by Phillips , showed up by Hector Lopez and quit on his stool to Ricky Hatton ,,,, sorry guys excellent world title holder but no legend , you have to fight legend status fighters to become one or do something really special like 6 weight divisions .

      Dont bother with any flames or insults if you want to debate KTs resume with some facts lets go !
      Last edited by RodBarker; 09-27-2007, 10:19 PM.

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      • Wiley Hyena
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        #83
        Originally posted by RodBarker
        KT really has fought nobody of real status at the time he fought them , he biggest marquee fighters , were

        Chavez - was shot and had lost 2 off his previous 5 and was destroyed by ODH way earlier , he was fed 5 nobodys after KT and retired , his last 5 opponents had 15 losses out of 30 .

        Roger Mayweather - went the distance with KT ,, Roger was KOed by Ray Lavato 4 fights before KT , he was a veteran journey man way passed his use by date , Locky Lockridge also KOed Roger in his prime , KT went the distance ,, Roger has also said many times Floyd is class above what he was .

        KT beat Forrest at amateur which is way different than the pros ,, Forrest would knock him out now at welter where they fight , Forrest is 154 now .

        Livingston Bramble - had lost his 4 previous fights when he faced KT ,, was also a washed up now journeyman loosing 15 of his last 20 fights . KT went the distance with Bramble ,,,, Shannon Taylor KOed Bramble in 1 round .

        Juan La Porte - was a featherweight champion 6 yrs before he fought KT , and was beaten at featherweight 2 fights before KT and at 10 pds heavier than his best weight still went the distance with KT .

        Jake the Snake - lost his last 6 out of 8 by KO ,, KT was one of them , another decent fighter at the end of his career .

        Pineda - was nobody and had not fought outside of columbia , was brought out to Aus to lose .

        Hernandez - only fought one other name fighter in Chavez and got stopped , his career wins were against cans .

        Calvin Grove - was stopped in his previous 2 prior to fighting KT , retired after KT fight , his career was built at lightweight .

        Ruelas - his fights before KT , 8 opponents had 19 win and 28 losses ,, he was also stopped in 2 by ODH at lightweight 3 yrs earlier .

        As you can see all his early name fighters had little left , and at the time and were just resume builders .

        His latest fights were against good fighters but not near the class of ODH Mosley Trinidad Jones Pacman Cotto ,, any elite status in prime fighters are missing from Kostyas resume .

        I believe Kostyas best win hands down was Gonzales , brilliant boxing that night with KT in the zone ..

        Good fighter but his resume dont read like a legend , then on top he got beat badly by Phillips , showed up by Hector Lopez and quit on his stool to Ricky Hatton ,,,, sorry guys excellent world title holder but no legend , you have to fight legend status fighters to become one or do something really special like 6 weight divisions .

        Dont bother with any flames or insults if you want to debate KTs resume with some facts lets go !
        We've already done that....and you lost.

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        • RodBarker
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          #84
          You havent offered jack and got KOed in this debate waaaaay back .

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          • SkillspayBills
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            #85
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Really? Tszyu beat Vernon Forrest. Forrest whipped the **** ouf of Mosely. Uhh....a rational conclusion: Tszyu beats Mosely. [at 140]
            Dumbest post of the day, styles make fights, you sound like you just recently watched boxing with statements like that.

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            • Wiley Hyena
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              #86
              Originally posted by skilspaydabills
              Dumbest post of the day, styles make fights, you sound like you just recently watched boxing with statements like that.
              A rational argument. Deal with it.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                Really? Tszyu beat Vernon Forrest. Forrest whipped the **** ouf of Mosely. Uhh....a rational conclusion: Tszyu beats Mosely. [at 140]
                Yeah, your way of thinking makes really no sense at all...you dont look at boxing like that.

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by dadon5
                  Yeah, your way of thinking makes really no sense at all...you dont look at boxing like that.
                  It's one way to look at it......we'll obviously never know, but when someone says there's no question Mosely beats Tszyu....I'm not sure about that at all.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    A rational argument. Deal with it.
                    Insightful rebuttal Hyena, it was just as good as your assumption that beating one fighter means you can beat another, "ignorant" argument would have been the correct statement to make.

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                    • Amir K Shareef
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                      It's one way to look at it......we'll obviously never know, but when someone says there's no question Mosely beats Tszyu....I'm not sure about that at all.
                      mosley RIGHT NOW beats a prime Tszyu

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