Tszyu - Mayweather

[RodBarker]

I just realized you are nuthuggin Kos...

Oh my god. I cant believe I actually read this. Just some biased schoolboy ****. You're coming from an obvious agenda which really sucks. Mayweather fan perhaps?

JC - no one really is giving him credit for that win. Just like no one gives DLH credit for his wins over Chavez. I do personally like the way Tszyu dominated Chavez over the ways DLH did.

Roger- Roger won a single round? Yeah, he was savvy enough to last the fight. Your point is? MOOT.

Bramble and Laporte - Good fighters, KT fought these guys in like his 4th and 8th or so respectively. Name another champion who has fought former champions of this caliber this early in his career? Look no further then Davey Moore..who got his Rear kicked by Duran.

Calvin Grove - was out of his weight class. I am aware of that...KT dominated him which is what he was supposed to do.

You forgot about Hurtado. Hurtado's really only lost to world class fighters. All timers. Tszyu and Whitaker. And that is off my memory. I am not aware of any other losses. Tszyu dominated him. Win over Tackie.

Am I missing any other names. That is a pretty good resume. And the way he beat most of these guys was flat out impressive.

Fought the best Zab Judah the world has ever seen. Undefeated 27-0 Zabdiel udah. Win over undefeated, prime Urkal. Win over Mitchell x 2.

Im glad your not presenting your case before a judge ,, because the argument at hand is whether KT is a legend or not ,, not whether he won most of his fights or was he a genuine world champ , we all know he was ,,, its whether or not he is a legend ,,,, he is a good fighter as his resume shows but a legend he is not as he hasnt beaten much in there prime and he has done nothing really special , thats my only point , Im not not trying to bag him or say anything other than he is not an ATG or a legend , In my opinion he just one of the better champs that come and go

[Wiley Hyena]

Mayweather would be Kostya. Kostya was a good fighter, I liked his style/personality.. but Mayweather would be too much trouble. He lost to Vince Phillips, who was a decent fighter, but was, in my opinion, the fight was on Vince's side, and THEN he KOd him. Kostya was young. I realize, styles make fights, however no way in hell Phillips EVER beats Mayweather. Regardless of age or if either was in their primes or not. As it goes for Kostya and Mayweather. Mayweather has a GREAT defense, and would block some of those right hands, and could take the fight as long as it needs to go, In Kostya's two toughest fights, he couldn't (Hatton/Phillips).. Mayweather by UD, Close enough fight, but Kostya fades in the end of this one and Mayweather wins 3 to 4 of the first 6 rounds, and then sweeps the last 3. with 7-9 up in the air. Just how I see it.

It's easy to cite Phillips because that was Tszyu's only loss during his prime. That's kind of like saying because Tyson got beat by Douglas, Tyson was not a world class fighter. Doesn't make sense. It's nitpicking.

[THe TRiNiTY]

It's easy to cite Phillips because that was Tszyu's only loss during his prime. That's kind of like saying because Tyson got beat by Douglas, Tyson was not a world class fighter. Doesn't make sense. It's nitpicking.

It's not nitpicking. It's proof. He also lost to Hatton, regardless of the prime issue or not, he was stopped late. He doesn't make it long in tough fights. I don't think he has an easy fight with Mayweather. Mayweather has more power at 140, and hits with more ease and more combinations at 140. Which is where I'd assume the fight would be. Phillip N'Dou was a hard puncher, had a nice right hand, got torn apart by Mayweather. I don't think Kostya gets torn up, I just think that he loses a decision. For the record, I DON'T think Mike Tyson is that great of a fighter. Just my opinion. So, it DOES make sense.

[Azteca]

It's easy to cite Phillips because that was Tszyu's only loss during his prime. That's kind of like saying because Tyson got beat by Douglas, Tyson was not a world class fighter. Doesn't make sense. It's nitpicking.

Agree'd. It's easy in HINDSIGHT to look at stuff like that and knitpick. I didn't really acknowledge it as a valid argument so I didn't reply to it.

[Azteca]

It's not nitpicking. It's proof. He also lost to Hatton, regardless of the prime issue or not, he was stopped late. He doesn't make it long in tough fights. I don't think he has an easy fight with Mayweather. Mayweather has more power at 140, and hits with more ease and more combinations at 140. Which is where I'd assume the fight would be. Phillip N'Dou was a hard puncher, had a nice right hand, got torn apart by Mayweather. I don't think Kostya gets torn up, I just think that he loses a decision. For the record, I DON'T think Mike Tyson is that great of a fighter. Just my opinion. So, it DOES make sense.

How the hell can you compare N'dou to Tszyu!!!? Phillip N'dou? You know, the nobody who fought his entire career in Africa. I never heard of him until he fought Mayweather. Did you???

[THe TRiNiTY]

How the hell can you compare N'dou to Tszyu!!!? Phillip N'dou? You know, the nobody who fought his entire career in Africa. I never heard of him until he fought Mayweather. Did you???

Yes. Furthermore, I was comparing a style, not the level of achievement with that style. Hence the reason I said I don't think Kostya would get killed like N'Dou, I said it'd be similar in certain regards.

[chosen0309]

lol! You can never win these arguments....I've never seen it happen...

[Wiley Hyena]

It's not nitpicking. It's proof. He also lost to Hatton, regardless of the prime issue or not, he was stopped late. He doesn't make it long in tough fights. I don't think he has an easy fight with Mayweather. Mayweather has more power at 140, and hits with more ease and more combinations at 140. Which is where I'd assume the fight would be. Phillip N'Dou was a hard puncher, had a nice right hand, got torn apart by Mayweather. I don't think Kostya gets torn up, I just think that he loses a decision. For the record, I DON'T think Mike Tyson is that great of a fighter. Just my opinion. So, it DOES make sense.

I didn't like Tyson either, but I was using that as an analogy. There are many others.

[Wiley Hyena]

Yes. Furthermore, I was comparing a style, not the level of achievement with that style. Hence the reason I said I don't think Kostya would get killed like N'Dou, I said it'd be similar in certain regards.

lol.....no you cannot win these arguments, but you can damn sure laugh at them. N'dou = Tszyu. lol....there's a legitimate laugher.

[Azteca]

Yes. Furthermore, I was comparing a style, not the level of achievement with that style. Hence the reason I said I don't think Kostya would get killed like N'Dou, I said it'd be similar in certain regards.

You cant compare a style when achievment and skill level is nowhere near. Tszyu was a great amateur (over 300 fights) and an all time great professional. N'dou is a boxing and I know nothing about him except for his loss to Mayweather.

What does that tell me?

N'dou - I think he only fought once after Mayweather beat him down good. He basically fought his entire career in Africa.

vs.

Tszyu - ATG fighter. Wins over many good, almost great fighters.

How the heck do you compare the two? You cannot compare styles when achievments and skill level is nowhere near each other (I said that twice by the way).