Emanuel Steward Explains His Hatton Over Tszyu Prediction

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  • Addison
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    #51
    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
    Sorry for the long post, but I still had that in my favs. It's interesting to see how mant people felt Gatti was a threat.
    It is. Interesting stuff, nice dig.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      IMO, cuts and the ref is the most serious concern for Hatton. But, this aside, you think Mayweather has the power to keep Hatton at bay?
      Yes, I do... his punches aren't KO punches, but they are enough to keep a fighter at bay.

      Look at Winky... not ever accused as a one punch KO artist, but... he keeps fighters off him.

      Mayweather just fought at 154, I think he is going to be more powerful than he has shown in a while. He kept Judah off of him. But then he fought concrete chin Baldomir and then up in weight De La Hoya. People forget what Mayweather used to do with his power.

      Look how he kept Gatti from throwing with his power, and I guarantee you Gatti is tougher than Hatton (not a knock on Hatton, but it's Gatti for ****'s sake)

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      • Wiley Hyena
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        #53
        Originally posted by -Hyperion-
        he has the footwork and the counter-punching ability to hit and dont get it...
        I see where you are coming from, and I think you are not commenting on Floyd's power (which is a comment in itself). You're saying Floyd's power is not the issue.

        Obviously, I disagree because Hatton is very accomplished at getting in and punishing opponents. IF he gets inside, do you think Mayweather can withstand the punishment?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Addison
          It will.

          But what else can Hatton do?

          Going after Floyd is by far the best thing to do and anyone who wants to beat Mayweather better be ready to get in there..


          The more I think about it the better it is for Hatton he's a smaller guy.

          I agree with some who think Hatton should come in light and quick..

          He can find his way inside - he's built a stellar career out of beating guys of all styles with his technique.

          Mayweather is vulnerable to it.. We don't need a rocket scientist to explain to us that a Ricky Hatton is the best qualified to give Mayweather a fight.
          yea thats the only thing he can do, thats why he will get dominatted december 8th, and im not even high on floyd.....

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            #55
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            Yes, I do... his punches aren't KO punches, but they are enough to keep a fighter at bay.

            Look at Winky... not ever accused as a one punch KO artist, but... he keeps fighters off him.

            Mayweather just fought at 154, I think he is going to be more powerful than he has shown in a while. He kept Judah off of him. But then he fought concrete chin Baldomir and then up in weight De La Hoya. People forget what Mayweather used to do with his power.

            Look how he kept Gatti from throwing with his power, and I guarantee you Gatti is tougher than Hatton (not a knock on Hatton, but it's Gatti for ****'s sake)
            Ok...we have a big disagreement that Gatti is tougher than Hatton. Where do you get that?

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              #56
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              That's a pretty lame analysis of Hatton, though. It's just so easy to rhetorically negate Hatton's offense with Mayweather's defense. IMO that's a trap and a mistake. But, you're opinion does correspond to conventional wisdom. Is conventional wisdom good enough for you?

              If you need more, then read Easton's brutally frank assessment above...lol.
              Wiles,

              In every analysis you do of the fight, you leave out a critical component...and that is Floyd's offense.

              I would like you to forget the Baldomir and DLH fights ever happened. That isn't normal Floyd. Those guys were MUCH bigger, and neither of them is getting knocked out by WW's or JMW's. It took a bodyshot to hurt Oscar at MW. Baldomir's head is titanium.

              So, let's go back to The Sharmba/Judah era.

              PBF was coming off stoppages of Sharmba at 147, Gatti @ 140, Bruseles @ 140, hurting Corley badly @ 140 and stopping NDou.

              Back then, Floyd was viewed as a very dangerous offensive fighter. Against guys Ricky's size. Do you remember anyone saying he was boring? Or "a runner"?

              Part of the reason that the punch count of Floyd's opponents is always lower than normal is Floyd's defense. But the other part is that when guys throw, they are very mindful of the fire coming back. In this fight, HATTON will have to be MUCH more defensive than he has ever been. Because we hasn't see this type of sharp, blazingly crisp punching.

              PBF went up to 147/154 to make a ****load of money....but he has paid the price with his reputation.

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                #57
                Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                yea thats the only thing he can do, thats why he will get dominatted december 8th, and im not even high on floyd.....
                If Mayweather was unbeatable I might believe that..

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                  I see where you are coming from, and I think you are not commenting on Floyd's power (which is a comment in itself). You're saying Floyd's power is not the issue.

                  Obviously, I disagree because Hatton is very accomplished at getting in and punishing opponents. IF he gets inside, do you think Mayweather can withstand the punishment?
                  i think mayeather has proved he is durable enough to withstand some punishment and if he can keep moving the whole 12 rounds (and with his incredible stamina, he will)ricky will only land hits here and there but never a great hit, at least not to the body....floyd has a decent enough chin IMO.
                  and floyds tming and countering makes him packa decent punch...enough to keep people off balance enough time for him to step back and avoid trading...

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    They may have thought Gatti was a threat but very few actually picked him to win the fight. Are you comparing Gatti to Hatton?
                    No, I'm illustrating how people were NOT saying that Gatti was shot BEFORE the fight. But every time a NSB member talks about that fight, they refer to "a shot Gatti".

                    Similarly, very few people said Castillo was shot before. But once he got in the ring....

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Addison
                      If Mayweather was unbeatable I might believe that..

                      nah hatton is just bad IMO...Floyd has a lot of flaws.................

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