Emanuel Steward Explains His Hatton Over Tszyu Prediction

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  • Azteca
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    #31
    Originally posted by BHopEx42
    I didn't mean for it to come off as a Hatton-Gatti comparison. Hatton comes forward, as does Gatti. Hatton wants to be aggressive from the start, and try to work Floyd's Body, the exact same way that Gatti tried to win the fight. Gatti only landed one decent body shot, and it didn't even do much, and he just set himself up for getting hit to much.
    ****ing simpleton. You guys act like Hatton is some sort of a limited plodder. Watch some more of his fights and try to notice the subtle things that world class fighters do. Try it.

    And re Gatti:
    Buddy Mcgirt over analyzed. I remember him coming out with some crazy gameplan about 'jabbing to the chest'. Or was it shoulder? At any rate, Gatti didn't even put the pressure on him. Just pawed the jab and was telegraphing the right hand the entire time. Mayweather being as good as he was saw through that and timed his right hand time and time again over Gattis' jab.

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    • Wiley Hyena
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      #32
      Originally posted by skilspaydabills
      That sort of domino effect sucks, nonetheless we only have about 7 or 8 people with actual balls in this entire site, disgraceful.
      Just give it some time and keep the thread on top. I'll help. We'll get more.
      But, my name was not on Hyperion's list. Skils, in order to promote the trust we may need for the initial donation, you need to keep the up to date list of participants and publish it every now and then on the thread.

      Oh by the way, I just chewed your ass out on that other thread, for being an ignorant *******. Cheers.

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      • Addison
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        #33
        Originally posted by BHopEx42
        I didn't mean for it to come off as a Hatton-Gatti comparison. Hatton comes forward, as does Gatti. If Hatton takes the same approach in the fight, like I meant to allude that he probably will, then I believe the fight will play out the same way that fight did. Hatton wants to be aggressive from the start, and try to work Floyd's Body, the exact same way that Gatti tried to win the fight. Gatti only landed one decent body shot, and it didn't even do much, and he just set himself up for getting hit to much.

        THAT's the comparison I tried to make. Maybe I worded it wrong, but it is what it is.
        Gatti was COMING FORWARD???

        No, no, no.. I don't think so.

        Gatti was standing straight in front of Floyd.


        That's exactly what Hatton WILL NOT do.

        Hatton is going to get in Floyd's kitchen, and that IS the way to beat him.

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        • Wiley Hyena
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          #34
          Originally posted by Addison
          Gatti was COMING FORWARD???

          No, no, no.. I don't think so.

          Gatti was standing straight in front of Floyd.


          That's exactly what Hatton WILL NOT do.

          Hatton is going to get in Floyd's kitchen, and that IS the way to beat him.
          Gatti was a punching bag with arms. He couldn't pull the trigger and it was sad. Now, that's the mark of a "shot" fighter. There's no way he could be compared to Hatton. Not even in one's wildest dreams.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Gatti was a punching bag with arms. He couldn't pull the trigger and it was sad. Now, that's the mark of a "shot" fighter. There's no way he could be compared to Hatton. Not even in one's wildest dreams.
            Totally agreed.

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            • DIOS DOMINICANO
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              #36
              Originally posted by Addison
              Nice, Wiley. ^



              There's something very significant about what Mayweather does that favors Hatton. I'll see if an astute Mayweather advocate can point this out..
              Addy,

              1) To answer your question, you must be talking about Floyd's tendency to roll down and to his right when he is in the shoulder roll. Many times, Floyd will bend over at the waist, predictably down and to his right. If you are a smart left-hooker, you might be able to exploit that.

              Is that the one?

              2) How is Tszyu's record post-Hatton?

              3) It is interesting to me to seeflowers being thrown at Manny's feet. He is a great trainer. No doubt. But if he was the be-all-end-all, then please explain Hamed/Barrera, Lewis showing up undertrained in South Africa, Hearns getting hunted down multiple times, Jermain Taylor stinking up the joint repeatedly, etc...

              4) Yes, he saw that Castillo's legs didn't have that right "bounce", and also that Castillo was responding very s l o w l y to Ricky's feints. To a very trained eye, you can tell who "got it". Just like most guys can see who the best player is on the hoop court even if that dude hasn't shot yet. Just the way someone moves on the court and dribbles.

              You can see a guy throw a baseball ONE TIME and make a guess if he is any good...right?

              side note, and you guys may want to archive this. I'm going to pay Ricky a compliment:

              Because Ricky Hatton has solid-to-good handspeed, one of the things that he does very well is feint. He feints alot and that has opened up opportunities for his offense. He has that hip-hoppy side to side style, and when you couple that with this hand and head (and shoulder) feints, it is tough for the average or slower fighter to deal with.

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              • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                #37
                Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                Gatti was a punching bag with arms. He couldn't pull the trigger and it was sad. Now, that's the mark of a "shot" fighter. There's no way he could be compared to Hatton. Not even in one's wildest dreams.
                But Wiles, with all due respect, how many people were saying that Gatti was "shot" in May of '05?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                  But Wiles, with all due respect, how many people were saying that Gatti was "shot" in May of '05?
                  This seems to be the tragic plight of Mayweather... he is commanded by all to fight certain fighters, and when he pitches a shutout, they become shot, overhyped, overrated or bums.

                  Carlos Baldomir
                  Arturo Gatti
                  Philip N'dou

                  Not saying someone like Gatti was considered a world beater when they were supposed to fight, but he was not regarded as the worst fighter of the century like people are acting like now.

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                  • Fox McCloud
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Addison
                    Gatti was COMING FORWARD???

                    No, no, no.. I don't think so.

                    Gatti was standing straight in front of Floyd.


                    That's exactly what Hatton WILL NOT do.

                    Hatton is going to get in Floyd's kitchen, and that IS the way to beat him.
                    Spot on... well the first part anyway.

                    The second part is an insightful guess, but I don't know if that is the way to beat him... who knows, maybe Floyd will be able to handle that kind of ****? He did a pretty good job stopping Jesus Chavez when he came right at him. I guess he didn't actually stop him, but he moved and countered masterfully when Chavez tried to get in his kool-aid.

                    That being said,
                    1. Hatton hits harder than Chavez
                    2. This fight is 17 pounds north, different circumstances.

                    We'll see I guess.

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                      #40
                      are we forgetting floyd can ****ing move on his feet like no other elite guy in the game???(see the corrales fight)...chico was actually doing a good job at cutting off the ring, but he didn thave time to attack cus floyd was so quick...castillo was succesful but hes much mre technical than hatton, it was good ol' mexican style upper body movement and timing that was doing floyd in.....
                      Hatton will get tired and frustrated of chasing Floyd and not catching him for some 7 rounds, then floyd will pick him apart as soon as hatton starts getting reckless......

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