Floyd May Soon Take Over Ali's Crown !!

[frankpaganini]

Floyd Mayweather may be the only fighter in history who could have won a world title on professional debut. After his first few fights, against Apodaca and Reggie Sanders, it was evident that Floyd had natural talent. His talent was always there to see and since his early fights he has developed arguably the greatest defence in the history of boxing.

It is obvious that Castillo beat Floyd Mayweather in there first fight, but counting the fight as a loss for Floyd, he is still heading for high grounds. After recently disposing of De La Hoya, Gatti, Baldomir, Mitchell and Judah, Floyd is a level above the best fighters of the current generation.

When being in the middle of an exchange, Floyd unlike any other boxer, can stop throwing punches, and not get to badly hurt by his opponent. His right arm stops body shots and his head is positioned a considerable distance from his opponent making it hard for their shots to have power on impact and hurt Floyd. Combining that with lighting hand speed, his attacking skills are diverse and the best in the world, yet not as good as his defensive skills.

If Floyd beats Hatton in December, he would have dominated this current period in boxing. To further the case for Floyd being considered on high grounds, near the greatest of all, this current period in the lower weights in which Floyd fights is at the highest standard it has ever been. Never have fighters in the lower division posessed power, speed and stamina like they do in this current period.

Its ironic that when the boxing community see greatness they can try to tarnish a fighters image and reputation. Floyd's arrogance may offend and annoy a few supporters, but we have to judge him on what he does in the ring and that is something very very unique.

Expect Floyd to make a mess of Ricky Hatton. Hatton will be stopped in the middle to late rounds. Simply, Ricky has never fought someone with Floyd's defence and he will be unable to tire Floyd by the constant holding. But when Floyd beats Hatton, will we continue to say "Hatton was not that good" and will we continue to line up Floyd's next fight for him and disrespect him by saying his next opponent will win by knock out. Its time we recognize the greatness of Floyd, and accept his cemented legacy as one of boxings greats. If he continues to fight big names like Hatton and win another four bouts against these big names, Floyd may very well overtake Ali as the greatest fighter of all time.

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This sounds like a highly constructive way of washing floyd mayweather jr's balls if you ask me.

I never said Floyd Mayweather Jr. wasnt one of the great fighters of THIS generation. i think he's a great fighter and said the only reason i dont like him all that well is that he attempts to ACT like ali with his trash talking (that he never fulfills or makes a visable attempt to fulfill while ali did follow through or at the least attempt to).

many of us remember Floyd's famous words of how when he fought de la hoya it was going to be a "massacre" and that he was going to knock him out.

well he sure as hell didnt create any type of massacre...actually the judges nearly gave de la hoya the fight...i dont consider a VERY close (minus the idiot who gave 8 round to 4 for mayweather) Split Decision win a massacre in the least...

and he sure as hell didnt knock him out...he never knocked him down and de la hoya was never in any real danger of going down...

he compares himself to ray robinson...floyd mayweather is no ray robinson.

if floyd beats hatton he has NOT beat every top fighter of this generation...
what about the likes of shane mosley, miguel cotto, paul williams...those are just 3 out of the (i'd be willing to say 7) top fighters including those in his 147lb divison and counting the elite in the division directly under and directly above his.

and if you ask me he got beat twice...once by Jose Luis Castillo and once by Oscar de la hoya.

those two "wins" were definately gift decisions...

like i said; he is definately ONE OF (not thee) the best fighters of this generation BUT i wouldnt go as far as to say he's unbeatable (unless he retires early...like after the hatton fight or something) because humans are, well, human and all humans have flaws...

yes you little fanboys even floyd mayweather jr.

and i dont think he could ever do enough (baring a miracle) to EVER be considered the greatest of all time...

he would have to do a lot more than what he's done...

being considered the greatest of all time over the likes of Ali, Frazier, Tyson, ray robinson, marciano, etc. is no simple task and i dont think he will be considered better than them...maybe a CONTENDER at best but never better than.

at best he'd be roughly in the ball park (at best) but never better...no way.

[Wiley Hyena]

I think you're being too nice about it, Frank.

It doesn't matter how many 12 round pillowfights he wins, once Mayweather retires, he will be quickly forgotten. Not because of his arrogance, we've all come to expect that with today's crop, but because he never had the guts to risk his precious record and throw down for a real fight.

[Dick-Sucker]

Im not even that great of a Floyd fan. In fact i was actually going for De La Hoya in their fight.

As for Ali having flair? Isn't it boxing we are going off, judging from? Or are you judging a boxer on their acting skills aswell?

Floyd has beaten some very big names, if he continues to do that, for another 4 or even more fights, you can't question where his legacy will end up.

[El Dominicano]

Oh by the way, Ray Robinson is the GOAT.. not Ali!

I agree SRR is the Goat!!

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My comment to this all of this is... whatever, when i see PBF or RJJ I feel lucky just like I would have been lucky to see the great of other eras, i look for greatness in what I get to see.

I am extremely pissed when I think that in the 50s Hopkins-Jones-Toney would have fought each other THREE times each (3x3=9), in the 90s we got a grand total of TWO. I hate the 90s media+money game, not the players, because I know i would play it that way, and all these candid souls who talk about legacy, think about what millions are, before talking all that ****.

All of the people who keep on talking about SRR like he was god and how he fought everyone, ever heard of Charley Burley? Sure Robinson was great, most likely the greatest, but what's worse? Mayweather not fighting Margarito or Robinson not fighting Burley?

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This sounds like a highly constructive way of washing floyd mayweather jr's balls if you ask me.

I never said Floyd Mayweather Jr. wasnt one of the great fighters of THIS generation. i think he's a great fighter and said the only reason i dont like him all that well is that he attempts to ACT like ali with his trash talking (that he never fulfills or makes a visable attempt to fulfill while ali did follow through or at the least attempt to).

many of us remember Floyd's famous words of how when he fought de la hoya it was going to be a "massacre" and that he was going to knock him out.

well he sure as hell didnt create any type of massacre...actually the judges nearly gave de la hoya the fight...i dont consider a VERY close (minus the idiot who gave 8 round to 4 for mayweather) Split Decision win a massacre in the least...

and he sure as hell didnt knock him out...he never knocked him down and de la hoya was never in any real danger of going down...

he compares himself to ray robinson...floyd mayweather is no ray robinson.

if floyd beats hatton he has NOT beat every top fighter of this generation...
what about the likes of shane mosley, miguel cotto, paul williams...those are just 3 out of the (i'd be willing to say 7) top fighters including those in his 147lb divison and counting the elite in the division directly under and directly above his.

and if you ask me he got beat twice...once by Jose Luis Castillo and once by Oscar de la hoya.

those two "wins" were definately gift decisions...

like i said; he is definately ONE OF (not thee) the best fighters of this generation BUT i wouldnt go as far as to say he's unbeatable (unless he retires early...like after the hatton fight or something) because humans are, well, human and all humans have flaws...

yes you little fanboys even floyd mayweather jr.

and i dont think he could ever do enough (baring a miracle) to EVER be considered the greatest of all time...

he would have to do a lot more than what he's done...

being considered the greatest of all time over the likes of Ali, Frazier, Tyson, ray robinson, marciano, etc. is no simple task and i dont think he will be considered better than them...maybe a CONTENDER at best but never better than.

at best he'd be roughly in the ball park (at best) but never better...no way.

1) i ll remind you since you dont seem to know about these guidelines (like the only judge who scored the bout in favor of De La Hoya, who wrote something about scoring where defense does not exist in HIS opinion and aggression was important, wether it was effective or not), fights are scored based one:
-Clean, Hard Punching
-Effective Aggression
-Ring Generalship
-Defense

2) What other fighter of this generation would be close to Mayweather?

3) Mayweather not better than Tyson? Are you being remotely close to the shores of seriousness. Tyson is possibly not even a top 10 HW, Mayweather is top 5 @130, top 10@135, top 10 @140 and that's being conservative.

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Oh yeah finally wtf does it mean "Floyd is going to take Ali's crown". Ali was a special character in an even more special era, forget boxing, but... are you going to compare Vietnam to Dancing with the stars?

[Fox McCloud]

This sounds like a highly constructive way of washing floyd mayweather jr's balls if you ask me.

I never said Floyd Mayweather Jr. wasnt one of the great fighters of THIS generation. i think he's a great fighter and said the only reason i dont like him all that well is that he attempts to ACT like ali with his trash talking (that he never fulfills or makes a visable attempt to fulfill while ali did follow through or at the least attempt to).

many of us remember Floyd's famous words of how when he fought de la hoya it was going to be a "massacre" and that he was going to knock him out.

well he sure as hell didnt create any type of massacre...actually the judges nearly gave de la hoya the fight...i dont consider a VERY close (minus the idiot who gave 8 round to 4 for mayweather) Split Decision win a massacre in the least...

and he sure as hell didnt knock him out...he never knocked him down and de la hoya was never in any real danger of going down...

he compares himself to ray robinson...floyd mayweather is no ray robinson.

if floyd beats hatton he has NOT beat every top fighter of this generation...
what about the likes of shane mosley, miguel cotto, paul williams...those are just 3 out of the (i'd be willing to say 7) top fighters including those in his 147lb divison and counting the elite in the division directly under and directly above his.

and if you ask me he got beat twice...once by Jose Luis Castillo and once by Oscar de la hoya.

those two "wins" were definately gift decisions...

like i said; he is definately ONE OF (not thee) the best fighters of this generation BUT i wouldnt go as far as to say he's unbeatable (unless he retires early...like after the hatton fight or something) because humans are, well, human and all humans have flaws...

yes you little fanboys even floyd mayweather jr.

and i dont think he could ever do enough (baring a miracle) to EVER be considered the greatest of all time...

he would have to do a lot more than what he's done...

being considered the greatest of all time over the likes of Ali, Frazier, Tyson, ray robinson, marciano, etc. is no simple task and i dont think he will be considered better than them...maybe a CONTENDER at best but never better than.

at best he'd be roughly in the ball park (at best) but never better...no way.

The idiot who gave Floyd the 8-4 scorecard is Chuck Giampa, who I consider (and have always considered) to be the best judge in the game.

Also, you say that those two wins were definately gift decisions? I mean, how definate is that? Was there absolutely no way that anyone in their right mind could give those fights to Mayweather unless they were bribed?

What an absurd statement... numerous people scored the fight for Floyd outside of message board ****s and the official judges. Harold Lederman scored the De La Hoya fight for Floyd. Dan Rafael of ESPN scored Castillo I for Floyd. I agree that they were close fights, however...

Close fights are not gift decisions, no matter which way they go.

When a fight is 115-113 in your view... is it not conceivable that a judge saw two rounds differently than you did? Could they prefer effective aggressiveness to clean effective punching in a round, or how about ring generalship instead of aggressivenes? I understand your post is mostly a shoutout to the people who shoot their fingers off on their keyboard without giving their posts a thought in the world, but when you write such extreme posts (as in they are all the way on one side without room for argument), then you become no better.

Hater posts are no better than fanboy posts.

[Tuggers1986]

anyone who says that has zero credibility in my book.

If you watch that fight and dont get Castillo winning you must be ****ing blind. Judging by your avatar maybe you was too busy wanking over your PBF poster instead of watching JLC beat Floyd.

[Fox McCloud]

If you watch that fight and dont get Castillo winning you must be ****ing blind. Judging by your avatar maybe you was too busy wanking over your PBF poster instead of watching JLC beat Floyd.

It works both ways. Anyone who can't see any possible way that Castillo won the fight is a ****ing ******.

Anyone who can't see any way that Floyd won the fight is a ****ing ******.

Fights are few and far between that are so one-sided that it would be impossible to legitimately think that the wrong fighter won.

Wright-Trinidad
Calzaghe-Lacy
Mayweather-Baldomir

Pretty much everything else though... there is a legitimate criteria that a judge could have used to score a fight for either fighter.