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I don't wanna get into this but sonofisis, why does it bother you so much that white people are racist? Blacks are racist, hispanics are racist, asians are racist, that's a fact. Everyone is racist, I don't see why you specifically pick to bash 1 race.
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I didn't really read all the posts, but the concept is pretty simple. Like I said, pretty much everyone is racist whether they like to say it or not, it's human nature. Blacks are just as racist as whites or any other race.Comment
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You got me here. I'm a sucker for this stuff. I sould probably overlook it and move on, but for some reason I don't.C'mon Kayjay. You love this kind of thread. If there's one to be found on the board I'll find you in the thick of it. Not saying its bad, but admit you love the race topic. There's a few other posters who seek the racial stuff to comment on as well. Blackjesus is another. I love reading his (and yours) posts, but if I need to find him, I just look for the race thread and there he'll be.
Black Jesus is the same and he and I have been through these conversations more times than is probably good for either of usComment
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sonofsis, I'm not at the library now but I'm going over there soon. If I have the time I'll check out some sources and share the results, whether they support me or not.
I'm certainly guilty of succumbing to hyperbole at times, as that's a common form of rhetoric on here and like toyboy points out, I'm a sucker.
It does seem unlikely that "racism has done a 360 in 50 years." It would depend on what aspects you look at, if it's psychological (what conscious considerations people take into account) or social/structural. The latter can't have changed too much. Regarding the former you have to add that for whites it's unacceptable to mention race, whereas black people feel more free to do so. But in any case I'll get back to youComment
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Socrates (Greek: Σωκράτης, invariably anglicized as [ˈsɔkɹətiːz], Sǒcratēs; circa 470 BC–399 BC) was an ancient Greek philosopher who is widely credited for laying the foundation for Western philosophy, and is held as its most influential practitioner. The most important source of information concerning Socrates is Plato. Plato's dialogues portray Socrates as a teacher who denies having disciples, as a man of reason who obeys a divine voice in his head, and a pious man who is executed for the state's own expediency. Socrates disparages the pleasures of the senses, yet is excited by beauty; he is devoted to the education of the citizens of Athens, yet indifferent to his own sons.
The trial and execution of Socrates was the climax of his career and the central event of the dialogues of Plato. According to Plato, both were unnecessary. Socrates admits in court that he could have avoided the trial by abandoning philosophy and going home to mind his own business. After his conviction, he could have avoided the death penalty by escaping with the help of his friends. The reason for his cooperation with the state's mandate forms a valuable philosophical insight in its own right, and is best articulated by the dialogues themselves, especially in his dialogue with Crito.
Details about Socrates are derived from three contemporary sources: the dialogues of Plato and Xenophon (associates or students of Socrates), and the plays of Aristophanes. There is no evidence that Socrates himself published any writings. He has been depicted by some scholars, including Eric Havelock and Walter Ong, as a champion of oral modes of communication standing up, at the dawn of writing, against its haphazard diffusion.[1]
Aristophanes' play The Clouds portrays Socrates as a clown who teaches his students how to bamboozle their way out of debt. Most of Aristophanes' works, however, function as parodies. Thus, one should not take his portrayal of Socrates at face value.
According to Plato, Socrates' father was Sophroniscus and his mother Phaenarete, a midwife. Socrates married Xanthippe, who was much younger than her husband. She bore him three sons, Lamprocles, Sophroniscus and Menexenus. His friend Crito criticized him for abandoning his sons when he refused to try to escape before his execution.
It is unclear how Socrates earned a living. According to Timon of Phlius and later sources, Socrates took over the profession of stonemasonry from his father. There was a tradition in antiquity, not credited by modern scholarship, that Socrates crafted the statues of the
Three Graces, which stood near the Acropolis until the second century CE.[2] There is evidence which indicates that Socrates never engaged in a profession: In Xenophon's
Symposium, Socrates is reported as saying he devotes himself only to what he regards as the most important art or occupation: discussing philosophy. Aristophanes portrays Socrates as accepting payment for teaching and running a sophist school with Chaerephon, in The Clouds, while in Plato's Apology and Symposium and in Xenophon's accounts, Socrates explicitly denies accepting payment for teaching. More specifically, in the Apology Socrates cites his poverty as proof that he is not a teacher.
Several of Plato's dialogues refer to Socrates' military service. Socrates says he served in the Athenian army during three campaigns: at Potidaea, Amphipolis, and Delium. In the Symposium Alcibiades describes Socrates' valour in the battles of Potidaea and Delium, recounting how Socrates saved his life in the former battle (219e-221b). Socrates' exceptional service at Delium is also mentioned in the Laches, by the general the dialogue is named after (181b). In the Apology Socrates compares his military service to his courtroom troubles, and says that anyone on the jury who thinks he ought to retreat from philosophy must also think that soldiers should retreat when it looks like they will be killed in battle.Comment
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