Black boxer bias

[squealpiggy]

Not sure what this implies? Firstly, if you understood the Rwandan conflict, it wasn't "racially motivated" since by definition, Hutu and Tutsi are both Bantu. Europeans imposed some fake "Hamite" classification on the Tutsi, which lead to some jealousy, however, conflict between these peoples were boiling over ever since the pre-colonial kingdom of Rwanda and had nothing to do with "racism".. Hitler on the other hand, was racially motivated.

Furthermore although the Rwandan conflict has been simplified into a majority Hutu genocide perpetrated against the privileged Tutsi minority, in fact Rwanda had for years been a timebomb of subsistence poverty and dwindling resources. What superficially may have looked like one ethnic group killing another was in fact a civil war in which Hutus killed Hutus, Tutsis killed Tutsis and both sides killed each other. Because the Hutus were a majority it is inevitable that Tutsi casualties outstripped Hutu in a war of attrition.

More details can be found in Jared Diamond's excellent book, Collapse

I disagree with you on the motivations of Hitler. Although his behaviour and policies towards the ***s and other ********** were certainly racist, his beliefs were a combination of Nietzschian "superman" philosophy (particularly as it applied to ayrian superiority) and an obsession with restoring Germany to what he considered to be its glory days. To this end Hitler's primary enemies were in fact communists and Bolsheviks, and it was initially his motivation that ***s were allied to these groups that led him to support their persecution. It was only later that he viewed the systematic persecution of ***s as an end in itself. I would suggest that Hitler's primary motivation was political and not racial, not that this excuses him for any of his disgusting and unforgivable actions.

[Ironside]

On another note, do you want to go ahead and pay me my 2000 points now or wait until PBF wins. We know the fight is just a detail to get out of the way.

don't mock me, and it seems you're getting overconfident. That's not always a good thing. If PBF overlooks Hatton like you are, he's in for a rude awakening.

[Ironside]

let me make it 2to1 odds for you, lets make this interesting.

[sonofisis]

No that was as racially motivated as it gets that **** in Africa. you confuse Nationalism for racism, in fact I dont think you can distinguish the two.

No, you confuse ethnic conflict with "racism".. This is like saying whenever one nation or tribal entity conquers another that they are racist. Black on Black crime is not racism and Im interested in hearing how a black killing another black is "racially motivated". Almost like the situation in Dafur, where you have Arabized Africans killing Christian and Animist Africans.

[toyboy33]

let me make it 2to1 odds for you, lets make this interesting.

I'll take those odds. Anything else I can help you with today, sir?

[sonofisis]

Furthermore although the Rwandan conflict has been simplified into a majority Hutu genocide perpetrated against the privileged Tutsi minority, in fact Rwanda had for years been a timebomb of subsistence poverty and dwindling resources. What superficially may have looked like one ethnic group killing another was in fact a civil war in which Hutus killed Hutus, Tutsis killed Tutsis and both sides killed each other. Because the Hutus were a majority it is inevitable that Tutsi casualties outstripped Hutu in a war of attrition.



More details can be found in Jared Diamond's excellent book, Collapse

Spot on. Except in addition, like I've emphasized, the conflict also stretches back to pre-colonial times in the actual Kingdom of Rwanda (before the poverty and colonialism). The Tutsi have been the dominant group in the area for a while and a lot of the atrocities consisted of Hutu vengeance from then, and colonial times. Thanx for the link too.

I disagree with you on the motivations of Hitler. Although his behaviour and policies towards the ***s and other ********** were certainly racist, his beliefs were a combination of Nietzschian "superman" philosophy (particularly as it applied to ayrian superiority) and an obsession with restoring Germany to what he considered to be its glory days. To this end Hitler's primary enemies were in fact communists and Bolsheviks, and it was initially his motivation that ***s were allied to these groups that led him to support their persecution. It was only later that he viewed the systematic persecution of ***s as an end in itself. I would suggest that Hitler's primary motivation was political and not racial, not that this excuses him for any of his disgusting and unforgivable actions.

You however, side step the fact that Hitler's political agenda was feuled by a belief in racial superiority. "Returning Germany to its Glory days" literally meant cleansing Germany and the world to make way for racial purity. Communism was an affront to this ideology as with communism there are no hierarchical groups, which would lead to a lack of control. It undermines exclusive Aryan domination, so his racial and political beliefs are inextricably linked and cannot be separated.

[toyboy33]

No, you confuse ethnic conflict with "racism".. This is like saying whenever one nation or tribal entity conquers another that they are racist. Black on Black crime is not racism and Im interested in hearing how a black killing another black is "racially motivated". Almost like the situation in Dafur, where you have Arabized Africans killing Christian and Animist Africans.

I'll give you this. For a argumentative troublemaker, you are quite intelligent.

[Verstyle]

How the hell did I miss a race thread.

[sonofisis]

I'll give you this. For a argumentative troublemaker, you are quite intelligent.

LOL.. I'm not a trouble maker; just a trouble destroyer. (J/K)..

[Verstyle]

Yea because if Kayjay goes into a black neighborhood, they will welcome him with open arms right?

Dont overrate how black neighborhoods react to ppl not there race.Because you would be completely wrong. Dont let stereotyping cloud your judgment on ppl,it isnt nice.