Floyd: "Cotto, to me ain't nothing but a punching bag."

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I defiantly think cotto would have a chance of stopping all of them except for winky, Williams, and Margarito. you do not know how effective those body shots are. Shane is not a body puncher like that, understand that body shots wear opponents down and cotto can really **** to the body well. if Oscar would have fought Cotto the way he did Shane he would have been stopped. and callazo would have been stopped as well. just compare their knockout ratio's. Cotto definitely hits harder than Shane . Quintana was a very good boxer and quality opponent. just look what cotto did to him. cotto hit Quintana with that hard body shot and probably recked him as a fighter. but none of these fights will tell us what will happen when cotto and Shane actually fight. The point is, Shane is a speed brawler and cotto is a power puncher. Shane will get body demolished if he comes in there with the same style. he needs to box and use the ring. but of coarse he will not change his style and come in there and brawl with cotto like he always does. so my pick is cotto by majority decision. Shane will have his moments but i think the body shots by cotto will be a huge factor.

Thats so untrue. Im telling all of you that you guys overlook the fact of the size and talent of fighters. You guys look too much at what fighters do but you dont look at the reasons why. Please man, Oscar, Clottey, Forrest, and all these other guys are not little guys like Zab, Corley, and Paulie. Its something totally different. Cotto is not going to hurt those bigger guys. Matter of fact, just look at the N'Dou fight. He somewhat struggled in that fight and never hurt him at all. Clottey is like N'Dou times 10. So are the other guys.

I still say to this day that there is one big thing that people overlook and thats the fact that Cotto has been the bigger stronger guy in 99% of his fights and that he still hasnt fought a real WW. He had some tough matchups at 140 against guys like Paulie, Corley, Torres, and others that looked like he only won because he was just so much bigger then them. Then he goes to 147 and fights 2 140 pound guyz in Zab & Urkal. The only real WW he's ever fought is Quinatana and I dont even consider him to be a real one. Im telling you that it will look totally different when Cotto is in the ring with a huge WW. Thats why I wanted to see him fight Margarito but oh well

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Zab could never beat Cotto, unless Zab had a gun. Cotto is just a better and people will make excuses saying if he moved this way he would have won. Bull****, as already mentioned Cotto fights both boxing stances so, nothing would stop cotto.

No doubt that Cotto wouldve won no matter what but the point was about a Floyd fight. Zab did things against Cotto to make it look much worst then what it couldve looked and Zab didnt do things that Floyd would do

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jaja maywheater wants to act tough LOL he is just scared and the only thing is going to do is piss miguel off.

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I like the Margarito Cotto fight the most but it isn't happening as of now. You're right though, he hasn't been with a big welterweights meaning Williams, Cintron, Margarito. But is Mosley a big welterweight? Mosley's got a small frame on him. Mosley won;t get beatdown but he will probably get beat

[DLT]

I disagree, circling left is actually what set up most of the hard shots Zab landed. He was trying to set up his power shot all night. And although Zab had more success with his jab circling right, he also ran into Cotto's most powerful punches, the left hook and the jab. And when Zab did have mild success circling right (I heard what Sweat Pea said and made it a point to see if it was true the next time I saw the fight), Cotto would switch to Southpaw.

Also circling right negates his best punch, which in that fight was his left uppercut. So Zab could have tried to circle right all fight, and all he would have landed was his jab, which isn't enough to keep Miguel off of him anyway.

I disagree and you helped make my point. Everyone was bragging on Cotto switching to southpaw but if you rewatch the fight and see what really happened, the only reason why Cotto switched every time was because he was struggling to hit Zab. Thats why he went to Southpaw because when Zab was going to his right, Cotto couldnt hit him.

Circling to your right as a Southpaw doesnt take you into the hook or jab. Just because your going towards his left hand doesnt mean it takes you directly to that. If you circle the right way and with distance then a guy cant hit you with that hook. You cant hook a guy who's circling that way because you have to be set to throw that hook. If the guy is moving then your not going to be set. Also, a Cotto hook is what you want if your going to your left. Thats when you can counter with your left because there's a big opening. Thats what Soutpaws do all the time and thats why people hate fighting them. Also, everyone knows that its nearly impossible to jab a southpaw so that doesnt make sense either. Thats why most guys throw the straight right as the #1 punch against the Southpaw because the other punches are so hard to land consistently. Cotto switched southpaw because those were the few times when Zab was moving and Cotto couldnt land on him. Everytime he went left then Cotto would decapitate him. He would walk right into the right and that would stop him enough for Cotto to trap him and come back with the lefts.

You say that all Zab could do by going that was is jab but thats what your supposed to do. Cotto had problems landing and then you throw your jab. Then in a split second you dart back to the left and throw the big straight right. Thats what Sweet Pea and guys like Spinks do all night. Also, when you go to your left then you always have to reset and pick up your feet. It just throws everything off but when you go to your right, everything is smooth and natural.

Its just like if Floyd fights Cotto or whoever he fights with power, he always goes right because he's a righty. He will circle right all night against Cotto and throw his jab. Then when Cotto gets frustrated he will counter him.

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I like the Margarito Cotto fight the most but it isn't happening as of now. You're right though, he hasn't been with a big welterweights meaning Williams, Cintron, Margarito. But is Mosley a big welterweight? Mosley's got a small frame on him. Mosley won;t get beatdown but he will probably get beat

I agree with all of that and thats why I didnt put Shane's name in it but I do think its a 50/50 fight. Shane is not huge but he's also the closest think Cotto has ever seen to a real WW while Shane has been in the ring with super huge guys who were close to MW's. Mosley will not be shocked by anything he sees from Cotto but Cotto has never fought anyone with the combination of speed, power, heart, and experince as Mosley and I think that could be a shock to Cotto's system.

I favor Shane for 1 reason and thats his combos. Someone on here said that Shane is a 1 punch guy now but I disagree. I think over his last 3 fights he has bounced back and has been throwing alot more combos. He's not his old self but he has been throwing alot more combos. I dont like Cotto's D and I think he will get caught at the end of those combos a few times and those punches hurt the most. When you slop or catch the 1st 2 punches but get caught by the 3rd one you didnt expect. This has FOTY written all over it but I think Cotto will be in for a shock when he see's that kind of fierce strength coming back at him

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Thats so untrue. Im telling all of you that you guys overlook the fact of the size and talent of fighters. You guys look too much at what fighters do but you dont look at the reasons why. Please man, Oscar, Clottey, Forrest, and all these other guys are not little guys like Zab, Corley, and Paulie. Its something totally different. Cotto is not going to hurt those bigger guys. Matter of fact, just look at the N'Dou fight. He somewhat struggled in that fight and never hurt him at all. Clottey is like N'Dou times 10. So are the other guys.

I still say to this day that there is one big thing that people overlook and thats the fact that Cotto has been the bigger stronger guy in 99% of his fights and that he still hasnt fought a real WW. He had some tough matchups at 140 against guys like Paulie, Corley, Torres, and others that looked like he only won because he was just so much bigger then them. Then he goes to 147 and fights 2 140 pound guyz in Zab & Urkal. The only real WW he's ever fought is Quinatana and I dont even consider him to be a real one. Im telling you that it will look totally different when Cotto is in the ring with a huge WW. Thats why I wanted to see him fight Margarito but oh well

I think he would have a size advantage over Shane as well. do you remember how little Shane looked when he fought callazo? thats because he quit taking those steroids and went back to his natural weight. Shane is only 1 inch taller than cotto as well. and cotto always weighs over 160 on the night of the fight so i think he still has size advantages over all the welterweights. and Quintana was a very good welterweight. trust me. he easily out boxed Joel Julio and you see Julio knocking people out on espn all the time so Quintana is definitely a quality opponent. and i think he would have beat Margarito. Margarito has a long thin body and i see cotto tearing it up.

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Yeah OK, Floyd is not even on SRL level...why is he thinking he is the man!? He beat NO one. Who? Who? An old DLH, and he still looked like ****. Floyd is overrated. Cotto will have him ****ting an everlast glove if they ever fight.

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I think he would have a size advantage over Shane as well. do you remember how little Shane looked when he fought callazo? thats because he quit taking those steroids and went back to his natural weight. Shane is only 1 inch taller than cotto as well. and cotto always weighs over 160 on the night of the fight so i think he still has size advantages over all the welterweights. and Quintana was a very good welterweight. trust me. he easily out boxed Joel Julio and you see Julio knocking people out on espn all the time so Quintana is definitely a quality opponent. and i think he would have beat Margarito. Margarito has a long thin body and i see cotto tearing it up.

read what I wrote on the post above yours

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I disagree and you helped make my point. Everyone was bragging on Cotto switching to southpaw but if you rewatch the fight and see what really happened, the only reason why Cotto switched every time was because he was struggling to hit Zab. Thats why he went to Southpaw because when Zab was going to his right, Cotto couldnt hit him.

Circling to your right as a Southpaw doesnt take you into the hook or jab. Just because your going towards his left hand doesnt mean it takes you directly to that. If you circle the right way and with distance then a guy cant hit you with that hook. You cant hook a guy who's circling that way because you have to be set to throw that hook. If the guy is moving then your not going to be set. Also, a Cotto hook is what you want if your going to your left. Thats when you can counter with your left because there's a big opening. Thats what Soutpaws do all the time and thats why people hate fighting them. Also, everyone knows that its nearly impossible to jab a southpaw so that doesnt make sense either. Thats why most guys throw the straight right as the #1 punch against the Southpaw because the other punches are so hard to land consistently. Cotto switched southpaw because those were the few times when Zab was moving and Cotto couldnt land on him. Everytime he went left then Cotto would decapitate him. He would walk right into the right and that would stop him enough for Cotto to trap him and come back with the lefts.

You say that all Zab could do by going that was is jab but thats what your supposed to do. Cotto had problems landing and then you throw your jab. Then in a split second you dart back to the left and throw the big straight right. Thats what Sweet Pea and guys like Spinks do all night. Also, when you go to your left then you always have to reset and pick up your feet. It just throws everything off but when you go to your right, everything is smooth and natural.

Its just like if Floyd fights Cotto or whoever he fights with power, he always goes right because he's a righty. He will circle right all night against Cotto and throw his jab. Then when Cotto gets frustrated he will counter him.

First of all let me say this. There were plenty of times where Zab tried to circle right, but he couldn't because Miguel's ability to cut off the ring. Hell just look at the second knockdown, Judah started moving right, but Cotto cornered him, and let go a combination that dropped him. Also like I stated before, all Zab landed when he circled right was his jab, and Cotto avoided a good amount of them. I understand what you mean by taking a quick step left and firing off a left hand, but Judah isn't talented enough to do that. Thats not an easy thing to do.

And also in your second post when you noted how a big strong Welterweight would give Cotto trouble, I agree with that, but Clottey isn't one of those guys. Margarito gives Miguel some trouble, and Cintron gives him hell.