Floyd: "Cotto, to me ain't nothing but a punching bag."

[Steak]

I consider Hatton better (at his weight class) than Cotto at the moment. If Cotto can beat Mosley, then Cotto is definately better.

In my head I see Mayweather being able to pot shot Cotto and counter his shots...but I also expect Mosley to beat Cotto. If Cotto can take care of Mosley, then I really dont know how the fight would go...
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[DLT]

Miguel Cotto come to the welterweight division with a **** beating the piss out of Quintana, who made his name by outboxing the very highly-regarded at the time Joel Julio.

Ricky Hatton made his debut to the ww division and won narrowly against Collazo. Just because Ricky struggled against Collazo now everybody is making Collazo to be this great fighter?

I think Cotto would've done to Collazo what he did to Quintana and Collazo had tasted the canvas before too so it will be easier for him to go back down. But that's just like my opinion you know.

Your a damn fool if you compare Quitana to Collazo. Collazo was a Champ who is huge and easily one of the most highly skilled fighters in the game. If Cotto fights Collazo then he will have hell on his hands. Im not saying he wouldnt win but he definatly would have a hard fight, he definatly wont even come close to stopping him, and I wouldnt be shocked at all if Collazo won. Stop trying to play Quintana's win over Julio as so big. Julio was highly regarded but that doesnt mean anything. He hadnt beat one good fighter and was super green. He was just waiting to get exposed

[DLT]

See, folks. This is the manipulative ******* Floyd.

He knows that PBF-SSM is the bigger fight. So now he's pumping Shane up as "a very good fighter". Last week, Shane was "Just a sparring partner" and Floyd "doesn't care what sparring partners have to say".

But since GBP is co-promoting his upcoming fight, and since Floyd thinks that SSM is gonna beat Migs, he'll give Shane a little love.

Please note that Floyd had said (before 5/5) that he would never work with Golden Boy again. As soon as he got that big check, he wanted a rematch. And now, he has flip-flopped on Shane.

That is why I tell you guys not to pay attention to the bull**** that he says. just appreciate the artistry in the ring.

Look, everyone can tell the difference between real talk and a diss. Floyd called Shane a sparring partner but we all know that he never meant that. He was just trying to diss Shane. He wants Shane to win right now because its a bigger money fight and he wont have to **** with Arum. However, if Cotto wins and the fight does big numbers then that could very well change Floyd's mind, e****ally after he already said that Shane would kill him.

[pesticid]

Why is Collazo better that Quintana cause he's got 1 loss over Quintanta. And stop calling Quintana a slickster, the guy's got a pretty good ko ration on his record. Look at Collazo ko ratio. Cotto will have even less respect for Collazo's power. By the way both Quintana and Collazo are the same height so I don;t know how you can describe Collazo as huge.

[DLT]

Why is Collazo better that Quintana cause he's got 1 loss over Quintanta. And stop calling Quintana a slickster, the guy's got a pretty good ko ration on his record. Look at Collazo ko ratio. Cotto will have even less respect for Collazo's power. By the way both Quintana and Collazo are the same height so I don;t know how you can describe Collazo as huge.

Come on now, Collazo has fought much better comp and was a champ. He wouldve destroyed Julio. Quitana is a slickster. Just because your a slickster doesnt mean you cant have power. Besides, most of his KO's came against bums. No one even heard of him until that fight. I say Collazo is huge because he is. He's 5'9 but he comes into the ring at 160 for his fights. He's very think and solidly built. He may not have Quintana's power but he has much more strengthn then Quintana. Cotto would have real trouble with him. Its not the same as Quintana at all

[-Antonio-]

Its not hard to outbox Zab when he's being a idiot. Ive watched that fight a few times and one big thing is obvious and even Sweet Pea said it. Zab went the wrong way the whole fight. His dad is a idiot. Zab circled to his left all fight long. Sweet Pea even said that was Zab's biggest problem and he said that if your a lefty that goes to his left then you will lose. He said that even he couldnt get away with that.

Now, when I watch the fight you could see that everytime Zab had success it was because he was going to his right. If your a Soutpaw who goes to his right then the opponent will always be following you and will have to reach for everything he does. When Zab went right Cotto nearly missed or came up short on all of his punches every time. However, Zab spent most of the fight going left which means he is walking right into Cotto's power. He made it so easy for Cotto. Floyd would never be that dumb. Just from what I saw about
Cotto not landing as much when Zab went right, shows me that Floyd could do that and you know he could do it 10x better then Zab

I disagree, circling left is actually what set up most of the hard shots Zab landed. He was trying to set up his power shot all night. And although Zab had more success with his jab circling right, he also ran into Cotto's most powerful punches, the left hook and the jab. And when Zab did have mild success circling right (I heard what Sweat Pea said and made it a point to see if it was true the next time I saw the fight), Cotto would switch to Southpaw.

Also circling right negates his best punch, which in that fight was his left uppercut. So Zab could have tried to circle right all fight, and all he would have landed was his jab, which isn't enough to keep Miguel off of him anyway.

[pesticid]

Collazo struggled against Rivera but would destroy Julio? Besides the Quintana fight Julio has fared pretty well. Yeah Quintana koed bums meanwhile Collazo couldn't even ko bums. I think Collazo is a good fighter but I don;t think his split decision victoy over Jose Rivera makes him a better fighter than Quintana's wide unanimous decision over Julio.

[-Antonio-]

See, folks. This is the manipulative ******* Floyd.

He knows that PBF-SSM is the bigger fight. So now he's pumping Shane up as "a very good fighter". Last week, Shane was "Just a sparring partner" and Floyd "doesn't care what sparring partners have to say".

But since GBP is co-promoting his upcoming fight, and since Floyd thinks that SSM is gonna beat Migs, he'll give Shane a little love.

Please note that Floyd had said (before 5/5) that he would never work with Golden Boy again. As soon as he got that big check, he wanted a rematch. And now, he has flip-flopped on Shane.

That is why I tell you guys not to pay attention to the bull**** that he says. just appreciate the artistry in the ring.

Exactly, this is what bothers me most about Floyd, he contradicts him self all the time. Thats why I gave up taking anything he says seriously a long time ago.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Come on now, how can you say something like that? Shane has been fighting so many top guys. Your not going to stop those guys. Your crazy if you think Cotto even comes close to stopping the Oscar or Forrest that Shane fought. Also, how does everyone not know if Cotto's power is overrated? Everyone he's stopped he's been much bigger then. He was killing guys at 140 because he was twice there size. Even at WW he hasnt faced anyone except for 2 140 pounders in Zab & Urkal and a guy in Quinatana who is a slick type fighter who hasnt beaten anyone except a green overrated Julio. You guys are crazy if you think Cotto even comes close to Knocking Out Collazo, Clottey, Margarito, Williams, Shane, Oscar, Forrest, Winky, or whoever. Its easy to knock out guys who your much bigger then or guys who are bums but your not even going to come close to stopping these guys who are your size or bigger and guys who are just as good or even better then you.

also, look at this thread. The numbers show that Cotto won but read most of the comments about the one punch power http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=132748

I defiantly think cotto would have a chance of stopping all of them except for winky, Williams, and Margarito. you do not know how effective those body shots are. Shane is not a body puncher like that, understand that body shots wear opponents down and cotto can really **** to the body well. if Oscar would have fought Cotto the way he did Shane he would have been stopped. and callazo would have been stopped as well. just compare their knockout ratio's. Cotto definitely hits harder than Shane . Quintana was a very good boxer and quality opponent. just look what cotto did to him. cotto hit Quintana with that hard body shot and probably recked him as a fighter. but none of these fights will tell us what will happen when cotto and Shane actually fight. The point is, Shane is a speed brawler and cotto is a power puncher. Shane will get body demolished if he comes in there with the same style. he needs to box and use the ring. but of coarse he will not change his style and come in there and brawl with cotto like he always does. so my pick is cotto by majority decision. Shane will have his moments but i think the body shots by cotto will be a huge factor.

[EliteSoldier]

Zab could never beat Cotto, unless Zab had a gun. Cotto is just a better and people will make excuses saying if he moved this way he would have won. Bull****, as already mentioned Cotto fights both boxing stances so, nothing would stop cotto.