Floyd: "Cotto, to me ain't nothing but a punching bag."

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  • adamk1304
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    #11
    Originally posted by Nate126
    Damn right, hatton isgoing to suplex him with all that hugging he does.

    i couldn't care less if he does, i want him to hurt that little ***** in whatever way he can.

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      #12
      Originally posted by DLT
      I totally disagree. 1st off Floyd has been fighting guys his age and older recently because he only wants the big money fights and most young guys havent established themselves enough to make big money. If Cotto had Tito's drawing power then Floyd would be all over that fight.

      As for Shane, I agree with you about his past losses but completely disagree about this fight. Cotto isnt like any of those guys at all. Shane lost to very tall guys who were master boxers and highly skilled fighters. Cotto is even shorter then Shane and he's a good boxer but he's not like those other 2 guys. I think its a perfect matchup for Shane. A right handed fighter, who will stand in front of him, who gets hit easily, has been rocked more then a few times, and is shorter then him.


      I agree with you about the first part. They would have to pay Floyd alot of money to take that fight. but on the part about Mosley and cotto i completely disagree. Mosley is too brave and will stand there toe to toe with cotto and brawl with him. yes i know cotto has been rocked by lesser opponents but they all could punch. and he showed heart in all those fights by coming back and knocking them all out. and we can forget about cotto having a weak chin because he showed an iron chin when he fought Judah and Quintana. he can take a good punch. the thing is, he was killing himself trying to make 140 so he felt weak and he was rocked easier. at 147, he is stronger and can take the shots better. Zab hit cotto as hard as he could and cotto came right back at him. and i dont think shane hits harder than zab. but thats my opinion.

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      • EliteSoldier
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        #13
        Zab was kicking the crap out of Mayweather before Zab's stamina kicked in. Cotto's better then zab and doesn't have a stamina problem. I don't see how Cotto would be a punching bag if Zab gave Mayweather problems. Then you bet your ass Cotto would.

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          #14
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
          I'm a Floyd Mayweather fan but i seriously think he shouldn't mess with cotto. cotto is getting better and better because he is still learning. at one point in the Zab Judah fight, cotto was out boxing Judah. he can bring alot of pressure on Floyd and will give Floyd a very hard time. if they fought, Floyd better be 100% because he will be in fight of his life.
          Its not hard to outbox Zab when he's being a idiot. Ive watched that fight a few times and one big thing is obvious and even Sweet Pea said it. Zab went the wrong way the whole fight. His dad is a idiot. Zab circled to his left all fight long. Sweet Pea even said that was Zab's biggest problem and he said that if your a lefty that goes to his left then you will lose. He said that even he couldnt get away with that.

          Now, when I watch the fight you could see that everytime Zab had success it was because he was going to his right. If your a Soutpaw who goes to his right then the opponent will always be following you and will have to reach for everything he does. When Zab went right Cotto nearly missed or came up short on all of his punches every time. However, Zab spent most of the fight going left which means he is walking right into Cotto's power. He made it so easy for Cotto. Floyd would never be that dumb. Just from what I saw about Cotto not landing as much when Zab went right, shows me that Floyd could do that and you know he could do it 10x better then Zab

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            #15
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
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            I agree with you about the first part. They would have to pay Floyd alot of money to take that fight. but on the part about Mosley and cotto i completely disagree. Mosley is too brave and will stand there toe to toe with cotto and brawl with him. yes i know cotto has been rocked by lesser opponents but they all could punch. and he showed heart in all those fights by coming back and knocking them all out. and we can forget about cotto having a weak chin because he showed an iron chin when he fought Judah and Quintana. he can take a good punch. the thing is, he was killing himself trying to make 140 so he felt weak and he was rocked easier. at 147, he is stronger and can take the shots better. Zab hit cotto as hard as he could and cotto came right back at him. and i dont think shane hits harder than zab. but thats my opinion.
            I disagree. You make it sound like Mosley is Floyd or one of these other guys. Shane is fast but he is a power fighter 1st & foremost. If there is one guy who could go toe to toe with Cotto then its Mosley. I think your wrong about the power. I think Zab has some explosive power but its mostly at 140. I actually think Shane hits harder then even Cotto. Cotto has heavier hands though. I say that if Shane fought the same guys as Cotto then he wouldve destroyed all of them too, maybe except for Zab just because of the style but I think that going toe to toe with Shane aint no walk in the park either. Thats what makes this fight so great. They will straight up battle with so much speed & power. Shane wont back down from anyone so he will definatly meet Cotto head on

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              #16
              Originally posted by EliteSoldier
              Zab was kicking the crap out of Mayweather before Zab's stamina kicked in. Cotto's better then zab and doesn't have a stamina problem. I don't see how Cotto would be a punching bag if Zab gave Mayweather problems. Then you bet your ass Cotto would.
              Probably because Zab Judah is a ****ton faster than Cotto.

              Remember, Cotto only took over the fight with Judah after the third round or so. Honestly, if Zab only fought 4 rounders, he would be P4P #1... he hurt Cotto a few times early with that lightning fast uppercut.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DLT
                Ive said that same thing all along. I hate it when fans on here and the media always says that Floyd ducked Cotto and this or that. Cotto never ever talks about Floyd. I never even heard him mentioned Floyd's name one time until the other day. I hate it when Floyd gets ripped for not fighting guys who had no intentions of fighting him. Arum only would bring up Cotto's name with Floyd whenever he was mad at Floyd and wanted to diss him by saying that Cotto would kill him. He has never talked about Cotto-Mayweather in a serious way because he knew Cotto wasnt ready.

                Obviously that may have changed now and e****ally if he gets by Mosley but either way, they never talk much about a Floyd fight, e****ally Cotto
                I've heard Cotto say he wants to fight De La Hoya, Mayweather or Hatton so that is some straight bull****... Mayweather is just scurreddd..

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by EliteSoldier
                  Zab was kicking the crap out of Mayweather before Zab's stamina kicked in. Cotto's better then zab and doesn't have a stamina problem. I don't see how Cotto would be a punching bag if Zab gave Mayweather problems. Then you bet your ass Cotto would.
                  You say that alot and that is garbage. There is no way that Zab ran out of gas in the 4th round. He won 3 out of the first 4 rounds and then was dominated the rest of the fight. Floyd just figured him out. He cant hang with Floyd, anyone can see that. It had nothing to do with stamina. Also, he was beating Floyd but dont make it sound like he was kicking Floyd's ass or anything. Alot of people also argue that Zab was doing the same thing to Cotto early until he got hit with 2 low blows.

                  Also, just because Cotto did something to Zab maybe better then Floyd doesnt mean that he will win. 1st off they didnt fight the same Zab. The Zab who fought Cotto was coming off of 2 straight losses, hadnt won in 3 fights, hadnt won in 2 years, and was coming off of a year long suspension. Everyone knew that if things started going bad for him then he would cave in. Then you add to that the fact that Cotto is just a naturally bigger guy. Its just like he killed Sosa in a few rounds and Floyd went the distance. Against certain guys Cotto is just going to look better simply because he is much bigger then Floyd and should punish those guys physically but that doesnt translate to a fight between the 2

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                  • slicksouthpaw16
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    I disagree. You make it sound like Mosley is Floyd or one of these other guys. Shane is fast but he is a power fighter 1st & foremost. If there is one guy who could go toe to toe with Cotto then its Mosley. I think your wrong about the power. I think Zab has some explosive power but its mostly at 140. I actually think Shane hits harder then even Cotto. Cotto has heavier hands though. I say that if Shane fought the same guys as Cotto then he wouldve destroyed all of them too, maybe except for Zab just because of the style but I think that going toe to toe with Shane aint no walk in the park either. Thats what makes this fight so great. They will straight up battle with so much speed & power. Shane wont back down from anyone so he will definatly meet Cotto head on
                    who has Shane knocked out with a good name at welterweight or junior middleweight? you cant say Vargas because he was shot and his chin was already caved in by trinidad and Oscar. if Shane had power like that then he would have knocked Oscar and Forrest out. Oscar and Shane stood toe to toe and Oscar didn't even get hurt. and i know Shane does not have more power than cotto. cotto has one punch power and shane has to wear you down with shots. Shane better box and move with cotto or he will get his body tore up.

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                      #20
                      Mosley gets beat. He throws one punch at a time just like Zab. He's smarter though and way tougher. He likes to hold when he misses with a punch and because of that I think he goes 12 rounds but looses most of them unless you listen to Harold Ledderman.

                      Mosley didn't show much of anything in his 3 last fights at ww (Collazo, Cruz and Estrada). As a matter of fact, he hasn't shown that he's a good puncher at 147 and above except for the Vargas fights.

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