mayweather v.s pernell(sweet pea)whitaker take your pick and why

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  • DLT
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    #41
    A guy Floyds size is very different then Floyd fighting a guy way bigger then him. Also, a southpaw is a completely different style. You havent seen Floyd walk anyone down? Watch all 3 of Floyd's fights vs slick southpaws who were Corley, Zab, & Mitchell. He came forward non stop, walked them down, cut the ring off beautifuly, and landed at will. He stopped Mitchell, dropped Corley twice, and may have even stopped Zab if it wasnt for the low blow. Thats why I said he would walk down Sweet Pea because he is a lefty who isnt that big and doesnt have mad power. Now people only act like theyve only seen Floyd's last 2 fights. I can assure you that Floyd will not go backwards against him so if Sweet Pea does come forward then it would be toe to toe techniqal brillance but I see that everytime Sweet Pea does let his hands go then Floyd will pick off a ton of his punches and then counter with quick rights. Dont forget how fast Floyd's hands were at that weight either.

    The thing I said about the pressure fighter not beating Sweet Pea is meant for guys like Chaves and those natural type guys who are slower. Its totally different when a guy who is just as fast and as techniqal as you can do it. Sweet Pea was the best at slipping punches but Floyd also doesnt waste any and is super accurtae. Sweet Pea has also been dropped before so if you time him right then you can definatly catch him off balance and no one has better timing then Floyd. It would be a brilliant fight that I wouldnt argue with if you picked Sweet Pea but I think you would be foolish not to argue that Floyd has a very good chance and probally more then nearly any other fighter in history and I think Floyd gets him

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    • BrooklynBomber
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      #42
      Draw or mutual disqualification due to neither side throwing any punches and doing weird dances in the ring.

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      • shawn_
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        #43
        So what DLT is essentialy saying is, Floyd will beat Whitaker by fighting like Julio Cesar Chavez, only he will do it better than Julio Cesar Chavez, and hit Harder than Julio Cesar Chavez.

        So a one shot pot-shotter we like to call Floyd Mayweather jr., will essentialy turn into the greatest pressure fighter that ever lived just for this fight.

        Never mind the fact that legendary pressure fighters like Azuma Nelson and Julio Cesar Chavez (who actualy has a right had lead as quick as Floyds)failed to beat Whitaker, Floyd will do it by fighting a style he doesnt usualy fight.

        I dont know where people get this idea that Floyd has the fastest hands in the universe. He doesnt. Not ever close. Floyds hands speed is in all reality just a few steps above average.

        He is no Shane Mosley. He is not a Meldrick Taylor. He is not a Pernell Whitaker. He is not a Zab Judah. He is not a Hector Camacho. The list goes on and on.

        Floyds handspeed is only really impressive when you match him against guys like Carlos Baldomir.

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        • robjr
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          #44
          Originally posted by shawn_
          So what DLT is essentialy saying is, Floyd will beat Whitaker by fighting like Julio Cesar Chavez, only he will do it better than Julio Cesar Chavez, and hit Harder than Julio Cesar Chavez.

          So a one shot pot-shotter we like to call Floyd Mayweather jr., will essentialy turn into the greatest pressure fighter that ever lived just for this fight.

          Never mind the fact that legendary pressure fighters like Azuma Nelson and Julio Cesar Chavez (who actualy has a right had lead as quick as Floyds)failed to beat Whitaker, Floyd will do it by fighting a style he doesnt usualy fight.

          I dont know where people get this idea that Floyd has the fastest hands in the universe. He doesnt. Not ever close. Floyds hands speed is in all reality just a few steps above average.

          He is no Shane Mosley. He is not a Meldrick Taylor. He is not a Pernell Whitaker. He is not a Zab Judah. He is not a Hector Camacho. The list goes on and on.

          Floyds handspeed is only really impressive when you match him against guys like Carlos Baldomir.


          great post.

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          • SpeedKillz
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            #45
            whitaker is not faster than floyd, his defense is not better, and his offense is not better. i aint sayin floyd is WAY better in those areas than pea, but he is better. whoever said floyd isnt on pea's level, well....... i'm speechless. floyd is on ANYONES level. pea, taylor, leonard, hearns, wutever. dont believe and dont listen wutever its all good, people are gonna hate on floyd i understand that, but dont say foolish **** like that. that makes the argument not an argument anymore but jus some ****** childish ****.

            anyway,
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              #46
              Originally posted by shawn_
              So what DLT is essentialy saying is, Floyd will beat Whitaker by fighting like Julio Cesar Chavez, only he will do it better than Julio Cesar Chavez, and hit Harder than Julio Cesar Chavez.

              So a one shot pot-shotter we like to call Floyd Mayweather jr., will essentialy turn into the greatest pressure fighter that ever lived just for this fight.

              Never mind the fact that legendary pressure fighters like Azuma Nelson and Julio Cesar Chavez (who actualy has a right had lead as quick as Floyds)failed to beat Whitaker, Floyd will do it by fighting a style he doesnt usualy fight.

              I dont know where people get this idea that Floyd has the fastest hands in the universe. He doesnt. Not ever close. Floyds hands speed is in all reality just a few steps above average.

              He is no Shane Mosley. He is not a Meldrick Taylor. He is not a Pernell Whitaker. He is not a Zab Judah. He is not a Hector Camacho. The list goes on and on.

              Floyds handspeed is only really impressive when you match him against guys like Carlos Baldomir.
              You have no credibility with this post. Again, Floyd was brought up in the ring. Just because he doesnt fight a certain way all the time doesnt mean he cant do it. If Floyd wants to walk you down then he can do it like a true pro. He could cause Pea way more problems with that style because he is smarter then Chaves and is way more skilled and faster. Its like Cory Spinks who many people think fight like sweet Pea. All the brawlers who are near his size looked like fools trying to walk him down but when Zab did it he had the speed and skill to give him hell. Zab is a guy who is a boxer and goes backwards alot unless your hurt but against Cory he walked him down and punished him. Its the same thing. Alot of you guys act like rookies and treat things so black & white when its not that simple at all.

              You lose all credibilty when you call Floyd a pot shotter and a guy who's not fast. Again, you must only seen his last 2 fights because you dont get all those KO's by pot shotting guys. Depending on the opponent and the style he wants to fight, he will let his hands go more. You must also not forget that Floyd is fighting huge guys who are way bigger then him and he's fighting over his weight. Thats where the pot shots come from. Tell Sweet Pea to go fight a good fighter at 160 and we'll see how much he lets his hands go. Have you seen Floyd vs Gatti, Zab, Bruseles, N'Dou, Corley, and all his fights at 130? He let his hands go in every fight so stop acting like he is some pot shot guy because he just did it in his last couple of fights against these giants.

              Then you say he isnt fast? That is too funny. People dont think he's that fast now because of what you said. He's pot shotting and your not going to look super fast throwing one shot at a time. He's also a techinqal fighter who does everything by form so if he threw a punch at the same exact speed as a Zab or RJ then its going to look slower because there swinging free-willingly while Floyd is doing it fundementaly. He never throws crazy ****. Then you also have to remember that Floyd is now 30 years old, in his 5th weight class, and not anywhere near his natural weight. You dont think that will slow you down some? If you watched alot of Floyd at 130 then you wouldnt say something dumb like that. He is easily one of the fastest guys in history and his hand speed was still super all the way to 140. Now people think he has slowed some at 147 or 154 but I think it just looks that way because he's throwing less combos. People also must remember that in all his fights at 147 & 154 he has fought 2 southpaws in Zab & Mitchell and 2 huge guys in Baldy & Oscar so in those fights your not going to throw a ton of punches like you would do against a orthodox fighter your own size. Let Floyd fight Mosley and see who has faster hands and watch how much Floyd lets his hands go

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              • DLT
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                #47
                Originally posted by SpeedKillz
                whitaker is not faster than floyd, his defense is not better, and his offense is not better. i aint sayin floyd is WAY better in those areas than pea, but he is better. whoever said floyd isnt on pea's level, well....... i'm speechless. floyd is on ANYONES level. pea, taylor, leonard, hearns, wutever. dont believe and dont listen wutever its all good, people are gonna hate on floyd i understand that, but dont say foolish **** like that. that makes the argument not an argument anymore but jus some ****** childish ****.

                anyway,
                Mayweather by SD
                thank you. listening to these guys you would think Floyd is some ordinary guy. I bet none of those guys have him rated #1 P4P and I bet they dont even like him much. Ive read your other post on him so you cant be netural in this debate. If you wont even aknowledge his skills then ofcourse your going to think Sweet Pea kills him. Now Floyd only has above average hand speed? Im still laughing over that one

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                • robjr
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                  #48
                  *shakes his head*

                  its ok we respect your opinion floyd fans... But to say he is on the level of whitaker just dont sound right...

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                    #49
                    robjr your just a floyd hater stright up....shawn i agree with most of wat your sayin besides the part about floyd's handspeed....regardless of wat anyone says it could be anyone's fight if they met up....they are both skilled in all aspects of their game with the exeption of some power.....however i think floyd had more power for his original weight class....thats just my opinion....by the way those are my two favorite fighters....i would give my left arm to see them in the same ring!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by robjr
                      *shakes his head*

                      its ok we respect your opinion floyd fans... But to say he is on the level of whitaker just dont sound right...
                      OMG, now that I look at your list, how can you like all those boxers and dislike Floyd? I dont get that at all? You like guys like Spinks, Dirrell, and Paulie but Floyd and his style doesnt suit you?

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