mayweather v.s pernell(sweet pea)whitaker take your pick and why

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  • oldgringo
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    #71
    Originally posted by DLT
    You guys always misread what I say. I wasnt comparing those guys to Sweet Pea. That part was more about Floyd. The guy was trying to tell me that Floyd never comes forward and never walks guys down and I said that he does when he fights those kind of slick southpaws who are his own size. Thats all. Im not ****** enough to think it would be as simple as it was against them but I think he would fight him in that same walk down style
    How would Floyd be as effective using strategy this with the most elusive fighter the sport has seen? When Mayweather used this strategy with Judah in spots early, he was countered with hard right hooks and straight left hands. Judah stopped throwing punches once Floyd started hitting him like he always does, like he did against Cotto too, but that wouldn't work against a fighter like Whitaker, who wouldn't be getting hit with NEARLY the amount of punches that Judah was hit with. Whitaker didn't fall apart under pressure like that.

    If anything Floyd would be best off using his length, fighting at range, using the jab upstairs and down, trying to time Whitaker. Coming after Whitaker would get Floyd countered and hammered to the body.

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    • oldgringo
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      #72
      Originally posted by DLT
      The size thing wasnt about them against eachother. It was about the differences in Floyd's fight with Oscar vs Pea's fight with Oscar. It was also about there overall career. You see Sweet Pea nearly always at his prime weight. He started at 35 and stayed there for a normal amount until he went to 40 and stayed there for a normal amount until he went to 47. Floyd has went from 30-54 and he has done it in a super quick time when Floyd really isnt that big. He should be fighting at 140 and could probally still make 135. Im saying to you that you would be thinking alot more differently probally if Floyd had more fights at 35 like he was supposed to and then spent the rest of his career at 40 like he should be. It would change your view and he would look alot different. You dont think that matters at all? Again, lets see Pea go to 5 weight classes or even 4, e****ally when he wasnt natural. Its super hard to do. Pea would not look nearly as good at 60 as Floyd did at 54 and he wouldnt look nearly as good at 54 as Floyd did at 47. It makes you look different the more you move up and Floyd is even doing that unaturaly
      Whitaker did go 4 weight classes, and he won the WBA championship against one of the best NATURAL Jr. Middleweight champions of the past 15 years. Julio Cesar Vazquez was an ox...more skilled than most remember too. The guy beat Wright, Davis, Daniels and Castiellejo. He was certainly better than Carlos Baldomir, and if Whitaker fought Vazquez like Mayweather fought Baldomir it would have been more of a shut out than it already was.

      Whitaker was a strong fighter, but he was hardly the bigger man in his fights at his best weight like Floyd was. Floyd was bigger than pretty much everyone he fought at 130 outside of Chicanito and Chico. I mean look at how much bigger Floyd looked than Manfredy, Goyo Vargas, Ramon Rios, Chavez and Carlos Hernandez. Those guys are among the best names on his ledger. Whitaker was fighting guys like Pendleton, Haugen, Mayweather, and Poli Diaz who were generally bigger, rangier and/or stronger than he was.

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