Is the HW Division a Joke?

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  • rambov
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    #171
    Its a huge joke. The champion of the world has a glass chin and a stamina issue

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      #172
      Originally posted by beez721
      holmes had a very good jab but wasnt a big puncher and he was only around 209 lbs in his prime. the klits and lewis would have steam rolled him. too much strength and power. the holmes era was pathetically weak and he didnt beat anyone near there size skill and strength level


      Larry Holmes would Destroy Vitali.

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        #173
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        Originally Posted by Stickman
        I grew up in the late 60's and early 70's, the "Golden Era" of heavyweight boxing, and watched most of those legendary fights on ABC's Wide World of Sports, and let me tell you something.....they said the same thing then, only the "Golden Era" they were talking about back then was back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's, and even the early 60's. In fact, I can't remember a time when people weren't bitching about the heavyweight division. They were saying the same **** back when Tyson was marching through the heavyweights, and then unified...."He wouldn't be able to do this back in the day, he'd be KO'd by (insert legendary heavyweight here) in the first minute of the fight".

        Well, I thought it sounded silly then, and do now, too. In fact, this may be one of the least "****ty" divisions I remember. It's not the best, but certainly not what everyone is claiming. I think that, on any given day, there are at least a dozen fighters who could beat any one of the other dozen at the toss of a coin. The only one who's probably not going to get beaten any time soon is Wlad Klitchko (or his brother...I really don't think there's anyone alive who can KO that guy, and you can't beat him any other way), and there's almost always been a single ruling power in the divion. Foreman, Ali, Tyson, Lewis, etc.

        The only thing that bothers me about the heayweight division is the lack of activity. Other than that, I like it just fine. Not as good as some of been, maybe, but not bad at all.


        this post makes the most sense..we only remember the good fights and fighters from the past..every era has had a lot of sub par crap

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        • beez721
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          #174
          Originally posted by rambov
          Larry Holmes would Destroy Vitali.
          lol,,,,nice well backed up post. holmes wasnt a destroyer by any means. he was a boxer. if sanders and lewis couldnt destroy vitali,,,,holmes wouldnt have so much as made him blink

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          • beez721
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            #175
            Originally posted by rambov
            Its a huge joke. The champion of the world has a glass chin and a stamina issue
            that stamina issue has been gone for a few years now. open your eyes and wake up. tiring badly in 2 fights out of 52 due to throwing too many punches isnt a stamina problem as far as having a glass chin goes,,,wlad has never been counted out on his back and even 2 huge flush left hooks from brewster when he was exhausted didnt flatten him like 1 shot did krasniqui and golota. the ignorance and hating in this thread amazes me

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            • Knicksman20
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              #176
              Originally posted by beez721
              holmes had a very good jab but wasnt a big puncher and he was only around 209 lbs in his prime. the klits and lewis would have steam rolled him. too much strength and power. the holmes era was pathetically weak and he didnt beat anyone near there size skill and strength level
              You're right about that his prime weight was 209-215 lbs. Holmes was by no means a huge puncher but he was a good puncher like I said. He punched hard enough to get the respect of his opponents. No one would steam roll a prime Holmes. I highly doubt either Klits beat him but Lewis would have a decent chance to beat him. Holmes was very skilled & had a solid chin.

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              • kayjay
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                #177
                Holmes jab is one of the best ever, but Wladdy has made it into a science, his is the best ever. He's to quick and has too much power. Holmes would actually be a very easy opponent for today's Wlad.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by kayjay
                  Holmes jab is one of the best ever, but Wladdy has made it into a science, his is the best ever. He's to quick and has too much power. Holmes would actually be a very easy opponent for today's Wlad.
                  LOL!!! Now I know you're just ****ing around. I thought so from your previous post.

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                  • kayjay
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                    #179
                    Why can't this be a serious post? Did Holmes have the power, coordination, or technique that Wlad has? Honestly? He did not. Holmes is an all time great fighter, and Wlad is not that at this point, but in terms of boxing skill and raw physical attributes, there's no heresy in saying the current man is superior to the man from 25 years ago.

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                    • Poet682006
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                      #180
                      Get real. Next you'll talking about how the moon landings were fake and the world is really flat.

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