Mayweathers demise-long winded--yeahhhh!!

[tito yuca]

The expression "laugh like a *****" is not a literal way of explaining how a "*****" (whore, rude woman, etc) would laught, it is just a colloquial of saying that one found something highly amusing and it made the individual laugh in an exaggerated fashion.

[Technical_Skill]

How exactly does one laugh like a *****? Wouldn't one require a predisposition towards ****sexuality in order to truly understand how a ***** would laugh? Then again, Maybe all one has to do is imagine how a ***** would laugh in order to mimmick it, and there's the rub. That kinda person would probably have flawed logic and would be highly questionable as a source for reliable logic!

Which is it?

Would you call yourself a source of reliable logic?

yes or no?

[Easton Assassin]

Would you call yourself a source of reliable logic?

yes or no?

Absolutly!

[Easton Assassin]

The expression "laugh like a *****" is not a literal way of explaining how a "*****" (whore, rude woman, etc) would laught, it is just a colloquial of saying that one found something highly amusing and it made the individual laugh in an exaggerated fashion.

I was taking for granted that you would read between the lines, but i guess that was a stretch on my part. Does refering to women as bitches,whores, and so on give you a sense of of being better than the person that brought you into this world? Thats what your doing by making statements like that. Your belittling your mom and every other female on the planet.

My point is simple. Anyone who lacks the ability to understand that their words define them is IMHO a very limited individual.

[FIGHTING_FLIP]

maybe not a repeat of gatti, maybe not a repeat a castillo 2..but maybe a repeat of jesus chavez? he swarmed mayweather with punches but wut happened? he got countered allllllllll night long

[Easton Assassin]

maybe not a repeat of gatti, maybe not a repeat a castillo 2..but maybe a repeat of jesus chavez? he swarmed mayweather with punches but wut happened? he got countered allllllllll night long

Possibilty, but I think Hatton is much larger and has a much better body attack.

[Technical_Skill]

Absolutly!

Im not so sure

First of all, Let me preface by saying a couple things concerning Mayeweather ability. Yes, He has skills. He has shown that he can compete on a level that most guys never will. He has shown that he can beat flawed, one dimensional fighters, and he has shown he can beat over the hill has beens.

He has shown he can compete on a level most guys never will, but then you say he beats one dimentional, flawed past it fighter?

How is that logical?

Name me one fighter that isnt flawed, im sure there is no such thing,

Where is your logic here?

Hatton's best two wins are against who? Kostya and Castillo

Were they in their prime? no

So where is the logic in using that as an arguement for hatton > Mayweather?

Hatton is an inflated Castillo- What does that mean? Castillo is a counter puncher that likes to stay in the pocket and work of the opponents mistakes. Hatton on the other hand is the purest form of pressure fighter there is. He comes and He comes, and if that don't work, He comes even more. To equate Hattons style to Castillo's shows a lack of understanding of the basics
skill sets required to understand the game. In other words, It's like calling Marvin Hagler a Technician!

Castillo a counter puncher? lol. i dont think so mate, he is a straight up brawler, a pressure fighter, what counter puching did you see in the hatton fight or mayweather fights? I cant see the logic in that statement. All your statement means is that hatton can apply more pressure than castillo.

Hatton doesn't have a jab- How does this figure into the equation? Oscar had a great jab. Did it help? Yes, when he used it, but in now way is a jab necessary to defeat Mayweather. If you had watched Hatton fight the first thing that becomes apparent is his ability to lunge in very quikly and rip Body shots and uppercuts without ever using the jab in a meaningfull way. Many will say that Floyd will counter hatton comming in, and that may be true, but when was the last time Floyd really had the power to discourage or hurt somone comming forward? Hatton has shown he is more than willing to take a little to give a little. Did you watch the Tzsyu fight? Many say it was a hugfest and Hatton cheated his way to victory. What most ignore is that Tzsyu landed many powerfull shots on Hatton and not for one second did stop the onslaught. Do any here really believe Mayweather has more pop that Tzsyu?

How is this logical? the jab is the most basic scoring shot in boxing, and DLH proved it is very useful in boxing mayweather, so why would a jab NOT be a nesscecary factor against mayweather? Thats not logical.

Do you really belive Kostya Tsysu has defense and footwoork like mayweather? because you are assuming the mayweather isnt gonna try and move out the way of hatton's punches lol. Thats not logical.

Tsysu didnt once stop the onslaught? What about the time he knocked hatton down with a body shot and the ref gave it a slip? Was a legit knockdown from what i could see.

Who has Hatton beat? I counter, Who has Floyd beat? That said, I don't see where this has any bearing whatsoever on what would happen if they meet. .

So the fact ricky hatton is known to have problems with slick boxers has no bearing when he gets in the ring with one of the slickest fighters of all time?

Where is the logic in that?

Hatton tko10

lol.

[Easton Assassin]

Im not so sure



He has shown he can compete on a level most guys never will, but then you say he beats one dimentional, flawed past it fighter?

How is that logical?

Name me one fighter that isnt flawed, im sure there is no such thing,

Where is your logic here?

Hatton's best two wins are against who? Kostya and Castillo

Were they in their prime? no

So where is the logic in using that as an arguement for hatton > Mayweather?


Castillo a counter puncher? lol. i dont think so mate, he is a straight up brawler, a pressure fighter, what counter puching did you see in the hatton fight or mayweather fights? I cant see the logic in that statement. All your statement means is that hatton can apply more pressure than castillo.




How is this logical? the jab is the most basic scoring shot in boxing, and DLH proved it is very useful in boxing mayweather, so why would a jab NOT be a nesscecary factor against mayweather? Thats not logical.

Do you really belive Kostya Tsysu has defense and footwoork like mayweather? because you are assuming the mayweather isnt gonna try and move out the way of hatton's punches lol. Thats not logical.

Tsysu didnt once stop the onslaught? What about the time he knocked hatton down with a body shot and the ref gave it a slip? Was a legit knockdown from what i could see.



So the fact ricky hatton is known to have problems with slick boxers has no bearing when he gets in the ring with one of the slickest fighters of all time?

Where is the logic in that?



lol.

First off, I much prefer this reply as opposed to the "I laughed like a *****" one.lol

OK, The fact that Mayweather can beat the Castillo's and Ndou's, and Chico's,and Gatti's of the world pretty much sums up the "beating one diminsional fighters" part. Second, Not many have been able to do just that! All have winning records dont they? That puts Floyd in a certain class. Maybe i didn't make myself clear enough. At any rate, I think thats pretty logical!

What does Hattons record have to do with my assertions concerning Mayweather? How does his record make a statement about Floyd's? I never brought Hattons record into it because i wasn't discussion Hatton. I was discussing the overinflated veiws of Mayweathers ability by posters on this forum. I guess the point of the post isn't important enough to adress. Thats seems like the illogical thought process here!

I guess if you lump all fighters into AGGRESSIVE OR DEFENSIVE then Castillo could be considered an aggresive fighter, but to my eye, Castillo's skill set is completly different than Hattons. Hatton tends to lung in with abandon, where Castillo is more of a calculating power puncher looking to stay in the pocket and counter with the hook and straight right. Surely we can agree that castillo is far more definsively orientated than Hatton? I still dont see the flaw in my logic!

Concerning the jab! I admitted that Oscars jab was effective when he used it. I didn't say that a jab wouldn't help-I said it wasn't necessary for Hatton to be effective. Fact is, All Hatton needs to do is cut off the ring and work the body consistantly for about 8 rounds and i gaurentee you Mayweather wont be so light on his feet. Hatton has neve shown a lack of stamina-infact he seems to stregthen as the fight goes on! How is my logic flawed? A jab is used to close the distance and setup more devastating punches. I can list a slew of fighters that were very effective without a major jab!

Your staement concerning me thinking Floyd would stand and brawl with hatton- Read my post. At the end I stated that the keys to victory were Hatton slowing Mayweather down, or Mayweather potshoting all night if he couldn't. Not much i can say except read the whole post before you make statements like that! Again, i think my logic still stands!!

So now it's a fact when a fighter has a bad night that he is forever labeled unable to handle a slick boxer type? Could when then say that Mayweather can't handle a brawler because of the first fight with Castillo? See my point?

I understand you may not agree with my assertions, but to call them illogical isn't fair. I could have said "I laughed like a ***** when I read your ****ty post" That would have been illogical!

Anyway, thanks for atleast addressing the issue!

[EMPOROAR]

I disagree with you. Castillo has more punches in his arsenal then Hatton but Hatton uses angles extremely well and he is much, much quicker then anybody gives him credit for. He gets hit alot but he rolls with the punches instead of taking them straight on the button. I cannot say the same thing about Castillo.

[Easton Assassin]

I disagree with you. Castillo has more punches in his arsenal then Hatton but Hatton uses angles extremely well and he is much, much quicker then anybody gives him credit for. He gets hit alot but he rolls with the punches instead of taking them straight on the button. I cannot say the same thing about Castillo.

That may be true, but the point is that Comparing Hatton to Castillo stylisticly is wrong!