Mayweathers demise-long winded--yeahhhh!!

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  • EMPOROAR
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    #21
    Originally posted by Easton Assassin
    That may be true, but the point is that Comparing Hatton to Castillo stylisticly is wrong!
    Oh for sure. 100% agreement there.

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    • satori555
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      #22
      why did someone say hatton has never shown a lack of stamina? is lying just really fun or something. watch the urango and collazo fights he was dead tired in the later rounds and had to hold twice as much just to survive. i will give you he didnt tire in the castillo fight so ya got me there mate!

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      • feed-the-goat
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        #23
        mayweather said after he beat dlh that he was a true light welterweight. Now the 2 best light welterweights that have been about since mayweather has been fighting have been kostya and ricky hatton. Now mayweather has not boxed either of them, where as hatton has beat kostya and WANTS to fight mayweather
        take what u wish from that

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        • Technical_Skill
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          #24
          Originally posted by Easton Assassin
          First off, I much prefer this reply as opposed to the "I laughed like a *****" one.lol

          OK, The fact that Mayweather can beat the Castillo's and Ndou's, and Chico's,and Gatti's of the world pretty much sums up the "beating one diminsional fighters" part. Second, Not many have been able to do just that! All have winning records dont they? That puts Floyd in a certain class. Maybe i didn't make myself clear enough. At any rate, I think thats pretty logical!

          Lmao, Corrales was one dimensional was he? ermm no he wasn't he could box and **** and he was undefeated and seen as the man at 130 when floyd destroyed him, so no logic here.

          One minute castillo is a 'counter puncher' (lol) next min he is one dimensional. hmmm sorry, i havent seen that many fighters that are both one dimensional and a counter puncher, is this cos u think castillo is always counter punching?

          lol.


          Originally posted by Easton Assassin
          What does Hattons record have to do with my assertions concerning Mayweather? How does his record make a statement about Floyd's? I never brought Hattons record into it because i wasn't discussion Hatton. I was discussing the overinflated veiws of Mayweathers ability by posters on this forum. I guess the point of the post isn't important enough to adress. Thats seems like the illogical thought process here!!
          Hold on, so why discuss floyd's record when discussing his chances against hatton and dont say you didnt because you said

          Floyd only beat flawed, One dimensional past it fighters and you also commented "who has floyd beat"

          Thats not logical.
          Originally posted by Easton Assassin
          I guess if you lump all fighters into AGGRESSIVE OR DEFENSIVE then Castillo could be considered an aggresive fighter, but to my eye, Castillo's skill set is completly different than Hattons. Hatton tends to lung in with abandon, where Castillo is more of a calculating power puncher looking to stay in the pocket and counter with the hook and straight right. Surely we can agree that castillo is far more definsively orientated than Hatton? I still dont see the flaw in my logic!
          You call Castillo a 'counterpuncher' and Hatton the purest form of pressure fighter, when hatton has more boxing skill than castillo. I dont see the logic in that. Castillo is not a counterpuncher lol.
          Originally posted by Easton Assassin
          Concerning the jab! I admitted that Oscars jab was effective when he used it. I didn't say that a jab wouldn't help-I said it wasn't necessary for Hatton to be effective.

          And I said you said it wasn't Necessary for hatton to be effective, which isnt a very logical statement


          Originally posted by Easton Assassin
          thanks for atleast addressing the issue!
          It was a horrible read all the way though, i couldn't be bothered to talk about your fight plan, or your prediction (lol).
          Last edited by Technical_Skill; 07-03-2007, 09:08 PM.

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          • Easton Assassin
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            #25
            Originally posted by satori555
            why did someone say hatton has never shown a lack of stamina? is lying just really fun or something. watch the urango and collazo fights he was dead tired in the later rounds and had to hold twice as much just to survive. i will give you he didnt tire in the castillo fight so ya got me there mate!
            Your avatar says it all! I bet if i looked up every single post you have made concerning Hatton it would be a sea of endless negativity, But thats ok, cause mine would be the same where Mayweather is concerned. Bwahahaha-aint that some funny ****!

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            • feed-the-goat
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              #26
              Originally posted by satori555
              why did someone say hatton has never shown a lack of stamina? is lying just really fun or something. watch the urango and collazo fights he was dead tired in the later rounds and had to hold twice as much just to survive. i will give you he didnt tire in the castillo fight so ya got me there mate!
              the urango fight he was full of a cold, the collazo fight he took at short notice and moved up a weight.
              He would not tire against mayweather at 140.

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              • Easton Assassin
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                #27
                Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                Lmao, Corrales was one dimensional was he? ermm no he wasn't he could box and **** and he was undefeated and seen as the man at 130 when floyd destroyed him, so no logic here.

                One minute castillo is a 'counter puncher' (lol) next min he is one dimensional. hmmm sorry, i havent seen that many fighters that are both one dimensional and a counter puncher, is this cos u think castillo is always counter punching?

                lol.




                Hold on, so why discuss floyd's record when discussing his chances against hatton and dont say you didnt because you said

                Floyd only beat flawed, One dimensional past it fighters and you also commented "who has floyd beat"

                Thats not logical.


                You call Castillo a 'counterpuncher' and Hatton the purest form of pressure fighter, when hatton has more boxing skill than castillo. I dont see the logic in that. Castillo is not a counterpuncher lol.



                And I said you said it was Necessary for hatton to be effective, which isnt a very logical statement




                It was a horrible read all the way though, i couldn't be bothered to talk about your fight plan, or your prediction (lol).
                I would love to go back and forth with you all night, but the truth is you are not intersted in a logical discussion. All your doing is trying to break down my points into endless bickering and in the process accomplish what? Ok, Im insane and we should just accept the fact that Mayweather is unbeatable. Hatton shouldn't even bother to show up because Floyd's just too strong for anyone-let alone Ricky Hatton? Hatton doesn't have a jab so there is NOWAY he stands a chance! Hatton is an exact clone of Castillo! Hatton is incapable of handling slick boxers! Hatton,Hatton,Hatton! lol

                Satisfied? For somone who thought this was a horrible read-why such a concerted effort to try(I stress try, because you really didn't address anything) to dismantle it? If it was so horrible why not just bypass it and click on the floyd worshipping link?
                Last edited by Easton Assassin; 07-03-2007, 09:16 PM. Reason: mispelling

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Easton Assassin
                  I would love to go back and forth with you all night, but the truth is your not intersted in a logical discussion. All your doing is trying to break down my points into endless bickering and in the process accomplish what? Ok, Im insane and we should just accept the fact that Mayweather is unbeatable. Hatton shouldn't even bother to show up because Floyd's just too strong for anyone-let alone Ricky Hatton? Hatton doesn't have a jab so there is NOWAY he stands a chance! Hatton is an exact clone of Castillo! Hatton is incapable of handling slick boxers! Hatton,Hatton,Hatton! lol

                  Satisfied? For somone who thought this was a horrible read-why such a concerted effort to try(I stress try, because you really didn't address anything) to dismantle it? If it was so horrible why not just bypass it and click on the floyd worshipping link?
                  Not at all, it took me a few mintues to adress the obvious point in your thread which were just rediclous all the way through.

                  Here are the examples.

                  1) Mayweather Only beats One Dimensional, Flawed fighters who are past it (yet in the same paragraph you say few people can fight at his level lol, im sure even you can see the contradictions there)

                  2) Castillo is counterpuncher. In a one word answer- NO.

                  3) Ricky Hatton can walk his way in without a jab and TKO mayweather by round 10.

                  This is your post in a nutshell, and what tito yuca was trying to tell you, was that, this was just horrible, lol.

                  Nothing to do with liking floyd or hatton, i just thought the main points were obviously wrong.

                  Live with it.

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                  • Easton Assassin
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                    Not at all, it took me a few mintues to adress the obvious point in your thread which were just rediclous all the way through.

                    Here are the examples.

                    1) Mayweather Only beats One Dimensional, Flawed fighters who are past it (yet in the same paragraph you say few people can fight at his level lol, im sure even you can see the contradictions there)

                    2) Castillo is counterpuncher. In a one word answer- NO.

                    3) Ricky Hatton can walk his way in without a jab and TKO mayweather by round 10.

                    This is your post in a nutshell, and what tito yuca was trying to tell you, was that, this was just horrible, lol.

                    Nothing to do with liking floyd or hatton, i just thought the main points were obviously wrong.

                    Live with it.
                    Fisrt of all, The original point was that Castillo and Hatton were completly different stylisticaly speaking. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that?

                    Second, a fighter may box, or counter punch, or brawl. Most are good at one(one dimensional) some are good at two(not one dimensional) and a very few can do all three. Corrales could box, but what did he always end up doing? He fargin made a brawl out of it. Castillos was never a great boxer, he was exceptional at staying in the pocket and working off the other guy. Mayweather beat Castillo beacause Castillo could not box effectivly. When have you ever seen Castillo deviate from what he does best(just give me one fight?)

                    So Hatton just walks his opponents down? If you actually watched Hatton fight and understood boxing you would have already surmised why Hatton ends up clinching so much. He has a problem of over lunging when he attacks and he tries to attack from unorthodoxed angels which leads to his opponent flailing around in an attempted to stop the indside attack. I gaurentee you that it's an intergal part of any fightplan used by his opponents-why? Hatton does 99% of his damage on the inside! Mayweather will try to do the same. Don't blame Hatton for trying to wear down his opponent, It's part of the game!point is, Ricky almost always lunges in, rarely does he walk!

                    Im sorry, but Tito Yucca is not somone thats strikes me as trying to get a point acrossed subtley!
                    Last edited by Easton Assassin; 07-03-2007, 09:40 PM. Reason: mispelling

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                    • passdabutter
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                      #30
                      castillo IS a counterpuncher!

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