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  • #61
    Originally posted by SquareCircle View Post
    Alright, with Miguel being the best pressure fighter Floyd has ever faced, how can you be so sure that Floyd's speed and mastery of effective punching will save him? Cotto's alot better than Castillo, and that's the best pressure fighter Floyd's faced. Judah is actually a little better but since his stamina is ****, he's worse than Castillo who's stamina improves as a fight progresses.



    Floyd fought guys alot weaker than Cotto and De La Hoya off the ropes...He showed his weakness in forcing a clinch everytime DLH pressured him on the ropes, since he won't be able to clinch with Miguel, do you really think he'll just run away and potshot without eating one or two heavy body punches?

    Cotto wouldn't be the one backing up if he fought Mayweather. Cotto has far more physical strength than an old DLH. Making the comparison of what DLH did vs Floyd, being what Cotto would do, void, since they're two completely different fighters with different styles.



    Pretty easy to always bet on the undefeated guy who doesn't get hit. You made a better argument than I thought you would. You have to keep in mind that Corely put Floyd in survival mode, if Corely had any finishing skills whatsoever, he would have taken Floyd out. Lucky for Mayweather, Corely isn't a good finisher. What would a relentless Cotto do to Pretty Boy if he actually rung his bell like the lesser skilled Corely managed to do?
    Oscar would knock Cotto out with the first left hook.

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    • #62
      It really really doesnt matter. Cotto will fight winner of Williams/Margarito around November of '07.

      In early 2008 if he wins he will be fighting DLH. This fight will make him more money than he will ever get from fighting PBF. I would even wager that Cotto-DLH would generate more money than PBF-DLH.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by SquareCircle View Post
        Alright, with Miguel being the best pressure fighter Floyd has ever faced, how can you be so sure that Floyd's speed and mastery of effective punching will save him? Cotto's alot better than Castillo, and that's the best pressure fighter Floyd's faced. Judah is actually a little better but since his stamina is ****, he's worse than Castillo who's stamina improves as a fight progresses.



        Floyd fought guys alot weaker than Cotto and De La Hoya off the ropes...He showed his weakness in forcing a clinch everytime DLH pressured him on the ropes, since he won't be able to clinch with Miguel, do you really think he'll just run away and potshot without eating one or two heavy body punches?

        Cotto wouldn't be the one backing up if he fought Mayweather. Cotto has far more physical strength than an old DLH. Making the comparison of what DLH did vs Floyd, being what Cotto would do, void, since they're two completely different fighters with different styles.



        Pretty easy to always bet on the undefeated guy who doesn't get hit. You made a better argument than I thought you would. You have to keep in mind that Corely put Floyd in survival mode, if Corely had any finishing skills whatsoever, he would have taken Floyd out. Lucky for Mayweather, Corely isn't a good finisher. What would a relentless Cotto do to Pretty Boy if he actually rung his bell like the lesser skilled Corely managed to do?
        How can you say Cotto is better than Castillo at this stage of Cotto's career? You're ****ing ******. That's just flat out disrespect to Jose Luis Castillo.

        Do me a favour and talk to me when Cotto can even touch Castillo's resume.

        Joel Casamayor
        Diego Corrales
        Stevie Johnston
        Julio Diaz
        Juan Lazcano

        and a lot of people think he won the first Mayweather fight.

        I'm not saying Cotto couldn't be better, but at least let the guy get a few wins under his belt, because as of right now, he only has 1.

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        • #64
          Pretty easy to always bet on the undefeated guy who doesn't get hit. You made a better argument than I thought you would. You have to keep in mind that Corely put Floyd in survival mode, if Corely had any finishing skills whatsoever, he would have taken Floyd out. Lucky for Mayweather, Corely isn't a good finisher. What would a relentless Cotto do to Pretty Boy if he actually rung his bell like the lesser skilled Corely managed to do?
          i made a better argument then you thought i would? i wish i could say the same about you. your arguments are a little shady.

          corley put floyd in survival mode? when? when he caught floyd with a nice left punch only to be knocked down several seconds afterwards. or how about about when he caught floyd with wild lefts that floyd took well. it's funny how he put floyd into survival mode when he was the one who got knocked down 4 times, but the ref only counted 1 of the knockdowns as a legitimate knockdown. he actually put cotto in survival more, because he clearly had him hurt, unlike floyd who once again, knocked him down right after he stunned floyd. cotto got a hometown stoppage over corley. you need to go back and watch both fights again, and come back with a different argument.

          and, i don't even have to respond to your other points, even though i read them in depth, because you obviously haven't seen all of floyd's fights in depth so i'll leave it at that.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Left2body View Post
            It really really doesnt matter. Cotto will fight winner of Williams/Margarito around November of '07.

            In early 2008 if he wins he will be fighting DLH. This fight will make him more money than he will ever get from fighting PBF. I would even wager that Cotto-DLH would generate more money than PBF-DLH.
            I'm about 99% sure it will make more money...two great fighters, big name like DLH, Cotto which will be huge by then, and the whole Mexico vs. Puerto Rico thing behind it.

            It would be a BLOCKBUSTER fight.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by pbftxrs316

              and, i don't even have to respond to your main points, even though i read them in depth
              Probably not a good idea to respond to my main points, when they're all valid and make you clearly wrong.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by deliveryman View Post
                How can you say Cotto is better than Castillo at this stage of Cotto's career? You're ****ing ******. That's just flat out disrespect to Jose Luis Castillo.

                Do me a favour and talk to me when Cotto can even touch Castillo's resume.

                Joel Casamayor
                Diego Corrales
                Stevie Johnston
                Julio Diaz
                Juan Lazcano

                and a lot of people think he won the first Mayweather fight.

                I'm not saying Cotto couldn't be better, but at least let the guy get a few wins under his belt, because as of right now, he only has 1.
                Yeah. I'm ****** when you're the guy discounting the serious wars Castillo has had inside the ring. Cotto and Hatton would both massacre Castillo. I said Cotto was better, I didn't say he had a better resume.

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                • #68
                  he'd smash on cotto

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                  • #69
                    SquareCircle, will Joel Julio KO Cotto???
                    Last edited by GunStar; 06-18-2007, 08:50 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by SquareCircle View Post
                      1. He won't be able to tie up Miguel like he did Oscar. You can't clinch a guy who has that much physical strength. He won't be able to tie up Miguel when he gets in close, or on the ropes. Roger's main gameplan if Floyd is having trouble on the ropes is, 'Tie your man up'...With that element of their plan thrown to the wayside, what will he do to make up for it?

                      2. If he were to fight Miguel, he would be going up against one of the best fighters to ever cut off the ring. Definately the best pressure fighter he's ever faced, and the best at cutting off the ring, would be Miguel Cotto. The fact that he's an expert at cutting off the ring, and un-clinchable, makes him a not-so-promising opponent. Floyd knows all this.

                      3. Miguel is at his peak. This is the best version of him we've ever seen...

                      (Lowers gloves)Take ya best shot, flame away Mayweather huggers.
                      Im pretty sure Floyd just fought a biggger, stronger guy at a higher weight.
                      Hes not ducking and hes not afraid, but he did promise to retire after the DLH fight, and thats what hes done.

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