Cotto is an upgraded version of Chavez

[mrpain81]

was cotto hurt in the fight?
nah i don't think so.
you have seen him hurt
he comes forward when hurt
i wished he would pressed the action and not gone oscar for the last two rounds[even though he out landed mosley]
so everyone wouldn't have another thing to complain about him with.

Im not a Cotto hater, he's one of my favorite fighter.

You have to respect a fighter that comes forward, I was dissapointed in the last 2-3 rounds though.

But its really to early in his career to compare him with Chavez.

[Sweet Pete]

Prime Chavez right here.

Chavez did everything Cotto does but a little bit better, Besides the Chin that was in a class by its self.

I will say that Cotto has a better outside game, or pure boxing game. Possibly more well-rounded, but at what they do best, as I said, Chavez has him beat in most categories other than handspeed by a bit. Then comes the titanium chin compared to Cotto's dentable one.

[AntonTheMeh]

Im not a Cotto hater, he's one of my favorite fighter.

You have to respect a fighter that comes forward, I was dissapointed in the last 2-3 rounds though.

But its really to early in his career to compare him with Chavez.

i understand.
chavez is a legend

[ferocity]

Cotto gets hit more. Hurt more. His punchs don't have the technique that Chavez well schooled punchs had. Chavez could box too. He could slip punchs. Prime Chavez has faster hand speed.

At one time, Cotto use to throw some great technical punchs, now a days his techniquez is not as finesse as it was at one time and he gets hit way too much. He easily could have lost the Mosley fight and Mosley didn't start fighting till the 8th round.

[Sweet Pete]

Cotto gets hit more. Hurt more. His punchs don't have the technique that Chavez well schooled punchs had. Chavez could box too. He could slip punchs. Prime Chavez has faster hand speed.

At one time, Cotto use to throw some great technical punchs, now a days his techniquez is not as finesse as it was at one time and he gets hit way too much. He easily could have lost the Mosley fight and Mosley didn't start fighting till the 8th round.

While I'm in favor of Chavez in this debate by a good deal, that was a bit off.

1) Cotto's punches do have very good technique, similar to Chavez, almost mirror in fact, other than the way he holds his hands coming in(more like earmuffs than Chavez).

2) Cotto I believe has faster handspeed, watch the Mosley fight again, while his movement was similar in speed to Chavez, his hands were very fast and connected a good percentage on Mosley due to this fact. Not a big difference here though.

3) Cotto doesn't get hit more at all(probably less in fact), but he definitely gets hurt more.

4) As far as boxing, yeah Chavez could box, but he wouldn't be outboxing Mosley from the outside like Cotto did. He was better on the inside than Cotto is though.

[AntonTheMeh]

While I'm in favor of Chavez in this debate by a good deal, that was a bit off.

1) Cotto's punches do have very good technique, similar to Chavez, almost mirror in fact, other than the way he holds his hands coming in(more like earmuffs than Chavez).

2) Cotto I believe has faster handspeed, watch the Mosley fight again, while his movement was similar in speed to Chavez, his hands were very fast and connected a good percentage on Mosley due to this fact. Not a big difference here though.

3) Cotto doesn't get hit more at all(probably less in fact), but he definitely gets hurt more.

4) As far as boxing, yeah Chavez could box, but he wouldn't be outboxing Mosley from the outside like Cotto did. He was better on the inside than Cotto is though.

yep i agree.i think cotto inside game is about even though,just look at those knockdowns cotto has had with body shots.in my opinion chavez only had a better chin cotto more power.everything else is pretty much a mirror image.
listen to the quintana bodyshot.

[pelonxsoldier28]

I always felt Chavez was a cab driver in disuise. He was overrated and Frankie Randall proved it as did Meldrick Taylor until he was robbed by the ref in that last 15 sec, of that fight.

you always thought chavez was a cab driver? lolz yea i remember when greg haugen said that and then chavez knocked his ass out. when he fought frankie, he had a ****ed up shoulder but did'nt back outcause he was a true fighter, and then rematched him and won his title back, then 11 years later fought him a 3rd time.and meldrick taylor had no power, just speed slap slap **** to get points, he was'nt robbed, he was a bloody mess that was pissing blood for a week and had slight swelling on the brain, not to mention he was also knocked on his back by a straight right. get your history straight before you post. you can only get so much info from the internet, the best info is from being there and remembering it when it happened.

[mrpain81]

you always thought chavez was a cab driver? lolz yea i remember when greg haugen said that and then chavez knocked his ass out. when he fought frankie, he had a ****ed up shoulder but did'nt back outcause he was a true fighter, and then rematched him and won his title back, then 11 years later fought him a 3rd time.and meldrick taylor had no power, just speed slap slap **** to get points, he was'nt robbed, he was a bloody mess that was pissing blood for a week and had slight swelling on the brain, not to mention he was also knocked on his back by a straight right. get your history straight before you post. you can only get so much info from the internet, the best info is from being there and remembering it when it happened.

Acctually you can get plenty of info from the internet, guys Just an Idiot.

[Sweet Pete]

yep i agree.i think cotto inside game is about even though,just look at those knockdowns cotto has had with body shots.in my opinion chavez only had a better chin cotto more power.everything else is pretty much a mirror image.
listen to the quintana bodyshot.

Thing is, Mosley was outdoing him in the inside when he woke up, which would not happen against Chavez I don't believe. Cotto seems to be more well-rounded than ever, but he was the one keeping the fight at a distance against Mosley because he had had enough of the body shots and Mosley's power inside.

As far as more power, yeah at 147 Cotto does, as Chavez was nowhere near his best there. At 140 it was pretty close, Chavez was really at his best at 130-135 though. P4P I'd say the power is pretty close, Chavez edge because he proved it more, while Cotto didn't really even hurt Shane.

[AntonTheMeh]

Thing is, Mosley was outdoing him in the inside when he woke up, which would not happen against Chavez I don't believe. Cotto seems to be more well-rounded than ever, but he was the one keeping the fight at a distance against Mosley because he had had enough of the body shots and Mosley's power inside.

As far as more power, yeah at 147 Cotto does, as Chavez was nowhere near his best there. At 140 it was pretty close, Chavez was really at his best at 130-135 though. P4P I'd say the power is pretty close, Chavez edge because he proved it more, while Cotto didn't really even hurt Shane.

granted mosley is no slouch on the inside,i think he thought cotto would focus on the body,and cotto had a hunch that he'd think that as well,he landed some good left hooks upstairs while mosley expect the body onslaught.