Calzaghe: "I Want Taylor Because I Love Beating the Top Americans"

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  • hugh grant
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    #31
    Originally posted by Addison
    I haven't wanted to diss because Mr. Calzaghe is important to people important to me - but come the **** on after awhile. :wank: :wank:

    Who was/is/ever was Jeff Lacy?


    Ricky doesn't bring up Kostya this much does he?.. Oi.
    Jeff Lacy was the new coming of Mike Tyson the one to destroy Joe Calzaghe. I dont think Hatton mentions Kostya quite as much but that is becaouse Kostya isnt American.

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    • squealpiggy
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      #32
      Originally posted by ThaHorseman
      The only people who claimed Lacy to be a top American were Brits and very delusional people. Most American boxing fans knew exactly what Lacy was: a cheap, mini Tyson-like fighter who would be exposed when he fought a talented boxer. Calzaghe is a good boxer, but an idiot if he thinks he's ever beaten a top American or top fighter from anywhere for that matter.
      That is pure revisionism. Most of the top analysts picked Lacy to be far too much for Calzaghe. A small minority picked Joe to win a close decision maybe having to get up off the floor and get a hometown gift to beat Lacy. Nobody, not even the brits, predicted a one-sided beatdown like the one that happened. And the American fans did not give Calzaghe a prayer, just liek they didn't give Hatton a prayer against Tszyu.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #33
        Originally posted by squealpiggy
        That is pure revisionism. Most of the top analysts picked Lacy to be far too much for Calzaghe. A small minority picked Joe to win a close decision maybe having to get up off the floor and get a hometown gift to beat Lacy. Nobody, not even the brits, predicted a one-sided beatdown like the one that happened. And the American fans did not give Calzaghe a prayer, just liek they didn't give Hatton a prayer against Tszyu.
        I think your partially right, i hadnt seen lacy before the fight, but a few hightlights was enough to pick calzaghe by ko in round 10 over lacy, it was actually smart matchmaking by Warren, even Enzo Calzaghe knew the outcome, joe would be too quick for lacy, and thats what i thought from the beggining, i also think Lacy had a poor night, one of those nights, it has to happen to someone, and on that night it was him, i still think if he can get over it he has a future in boxing.

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        • Shanus
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          #34
          Originally posted by Addison
          And that's Kostya Tszyu..


          I've heard it soo much I can hear Calzaghe saying "Jeff La-cy.. Jeff La-cy.."
          He's a right ****ing taffy, aint he?

          "I put on a spec-ta-cull, I shocked the wurld, I love beat-en the top am-eh-ri-cans me."

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          • ThaHorseman
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            #35
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            That is pure revisionism. Most of the top analysts picked Lacy to be far too much for Calzaghe. A small minority picked Joe to win a close decision maybe having to get up off the floor and get a hometown gift to beat Lacy. Nobody, not even the brits, predicted a one-sided beatdown like the one that happened. And the American fans did not give Calzaghe a prayer, just liek they didn't give Hatton a prayer against Tszyu.
            That may be true, but how many claimed he was a "top American"? A lot of analysts may not have given Calzaghe his credit for being good and picked Lacy to beat him, but Lacy had done nothing to prove he was a "top" anything. That was my point. Brits wanted Lacy to be considered a top American so Calzaghe would get more credit when he beat Lacy. But in reality, Lacy just isn't that good.

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            • Steelhammer86
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              #36
              Originally posted by ThaHorseman
              Lacy just isn't that good.
              There seems to be a pattern here, it's like this:

              1) There's an unshakable belief in some Americans that British boxers are inferior.
              2) Before a Brit faces an American opponent, these fans and "experts" have words of praise for the American opponent.
              3) They predict the American is going to win, that the Brit's weakness will be exposed.
              4) After the British boxer defeats the American, then they say the American opponent wasn't any good anyway. Poor Jeff Lacy deserves better than having people believe he's a tomato can.

              Here's the real problem in all this: British boxers are underrated by many Americans. The belief in the inferiority of British fighters needs to be replaced by fair, honest, and objective evaluation.
              Last edited by Steelhammer86; 05-19-2007, 11:00 AM.

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                #37
                Tech: You're right. Most US press picked Lacy. Very few were ahead of the curve stating that Kessler was better than Lacy way back in late 05.

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JD1986
                  There seems to be a pattern here, it's like this:

                  1) There's an unshakable belief in some Americans that British boxers are inferior.
                  2) Before a Brit faces an American opponent, these fans and "experts" have words of praise for the American opponent.
                  3) They predict the American is going to win, that the Brit's weakness will be exposed.
                  4) After the British boxer defeats the American, then they say the American opponent wasn't any good anyway. Poor Jeff Lacy deserves better than having people believe he's a tomato can.

                  Here's the real problem in all this: British boxers are underrated by many Americans. The belief in the inferiority of British fighters needs to be replaced by fair, honest, and objective evaluation.
                  Nope,

                  yes Calzaghe was underrated going into that fight, but i doubt people gave him no chance simply because he was british.

                  Before the lacy fight he hadnt beaten anyone to suggest he was gonna put on a performance like he did that night.

                  Lacy was shocking that night, he had no plan B, all he could do was charge in and swing aimlessly, he fought right into calzaghe's hands,

                  I think that fight was a one off, Joe is clearly living off that fight, he never stops bringing it up, whatever happens, i dont think Jermain Taylor is gonna employ the same tactics as Jeff Lacy.

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                  • jack_the_rippuh
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                    #39
                    Damn. I like it when Calzaghe talks like that.
                    He can really bring mainstream attention back to SMW if he keeps talking like that.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JD1986
                      There seems to be a pattern here, it's like this:

                      1) There's an unshakable belief in some Americans that British boxers are inferior.
                      2) Before a Brit faces an American opponent, these fans and "experts" have words of praise for the American opponent.
                      3) They predict the American is going to win, that the Brit's weakness will be exposed.
                      4) After the British boxer defeats the American, then they say the American opponent wasn't any good anyway. Poor Jeff Lacy deserves better than having people believe he's a tomato can.

                      Here's the real problem in all this: British boxers are underrated by many Americans. The belief in the inferiority of British fighters needs to be replaced by fair, honest, and objective evaluation.
                      The reason no one was picking Calzaghe is that his resume is trash. If he had beaten some better fighters, he would have shown he's better than Lacy...

                      I think people had fallen into the Lacy hype because of his power. It's similar to the hype we're seeing for Miranda right now. Lacy looked vulnerable in his last few fights before Calzaghe. He went to war with Vanderpool to win the title and had a tough fight with Sheika, a fighter who had been dominated by other fighters and been in plenty of wars. All the signs were there and people chose to ignore them because of his power...

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