Is Hatton One of the Top 30 Fighters of the Last Decade?

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  • oldgringo
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    #101
    if we're talking about straight achievement since '97 then yes.

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    • iluvboxing.com
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      #102
      Originally posted by The Fan Man
      I dont even like Hatton but he definitely beat Callazo by my score 4 rounds. Albeit he was very close to getting stopped in the final round.
      i judge on cleaner punches and percentages...even so, ricky hatton didn't take much time after the decision to say he was shootin back to 140. i still kinda like ricky but top 30??

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      • Steelhammer86
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        #103
        Originally posted by baya
        if there are stats out there, that would lead people to believe that hatton and calz have fought the opposition that mayweather has, then they're flawed stats. simple.
        Your prejudice against Brits is blinding you, so there's no point in my trying to convince you of the facts. Those IBO statistics are computer-generated, not someone's opinion. Hatton's opposition hasn't been as bad as you believe.
        Last edited by Steelhammer86; 05-15-2007, 05:34 PM.

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        • OptimusWolf
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          #104
          Seriously fan man you had Hatton winning clearly?

          I had it 115-114 Collazo, although that was with 3 rounds going to Collazo that could have gone either way. So give them to Hatton and you have it 117-112 Hatton.

          115-114 was the absolutely only score you could give Collazo, he clearly lost 5 rounds and was KDd.

          Sorry for the slight veer off topic....

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          • Technical_Skill
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            #105
            Originally posted by Miksterious
            I do like a bit of subjectivity. No doubt about that.

            I'm not leading it down that way though. Thats just the way these things go because they are opinion based.

            Like how the majority of people think that Hatton is a top 30 fighter of the past 10 years, but you dont. If we weren't allowing for subjectivity, then you'd have to admit to being wrong and go with the masses.
            Hhahaha (Would have given you Karma for this response if my bar wasnt ****ed)


            I disagree, the poll is still chaging, and its not representative of boxing scene as only a fraction of the posters have voted on it

            Therefore it doesnt warrant a cast iron fact.

            lol.
            Last edited by Technical_Skill; 05-15-2007, 03:08 PM.

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            • Technical_Skill
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              #106
              Originally posted by OptimusWolf
              Well lists that aren't based at least partly on achievements aren't worth the paper they're written on - I may as well stick Amir Khan on there...

              I've read lots of your posts, you're a good poster. But on this thread I think you've gone a bit wrong, especially if you think $in is a good poster. he's post4post top 5 worst contributor on NSB since I joined.

              In fact I can only think of one that is above him while I come to think of it.
              Hahah, everyone knows i like $in, i get flack for it, but NSB wouldnt be the same without him, he actually does know boxing too, when he's not doing the whole anti british thing. lol.

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              • .Mik.
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                #107
                ...When is he not doing that?

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                • Parody
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                  #108
                  30 Fighters Better than Hatton in the Last Decade, In no particular order:

                  Felix Trinidad
                  Bernard Hopkins
                  Oscar De La Hoya
                  Floyd Mayweather
                  Lennox Lewis
                  Evander Holyfield
                  Mike Tyson
                  Prince Naseem
                  Marco Antonio Barrera
                  Erik Morales
                  Manny Pacquiao
                  Shane Mosley
                  Ronald Wright
                  Ricardo Lopez
                  James Toney
                  Roy Jones
                  Virgil Hill
                  Steve Collins
                  Juan Manuel Marquez
                  Zab Judah
                  Joel Casamayor
                  JCC
                  Wilfredo Vazquez
                  Joe Calzaghe
                  Sven Ottke
                  Fernando Vargas
                  Kostya Tszyu
                  Diego Corrales
                  Pernell Whitaker
                  Jose Luis Castillo

                  In terms of accomplishments these guys are all ahead of him. (Not that he cant beat any of these, I think he will beat Castillo in their fight, but they have by far accomplished/achieved better than Hatton.)

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                  • Oasis_Lad
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    if we're talking about straight achievement since '97 then yes.
                    This is what it should be, but lots of people seem to be making up their own criteria.

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                    • Technical_Skill
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Parody
                      30 Fighters Better than Hatton in the Last Decade, In no particular order:

                      Felix Trinidad
                      Bernard Hopkins
                      Oscar De La Hoya
                      Floyd Mayweather
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Mike Tyson
                      Prince Naseem
                      Marco Antonio Barrera
                      Erik Morales
                      Manny Pacquiao
                      Shane Mosley
                      Ronald Wright
                      Ricardo Lopez
                      James Toney
                      Roy Jones
                      Virgil Hill
                      Steve Collins
                      Juan Manuel Marquez
                      Zab Judah
                      Joel Casamayor
                      JCC
                      Wilfredo Vazquez
                      Joe Calzaghe
                      Sven Ottke
                      Fernando Vargas
                      Kostya Tszyu
                      Diego Corrales
                      Pernell Whitaker
                      Jose Luis Castillo

                      In terms of accomplishments these guys are all ahead of him. (Not that he cant beat any of these, I think he will beat Castillo in their fight, but they have by far accomplished/achieved better than Hatton.)

                      Great list, similar to mine, i hope you understand i have to be critical.

                      1) Steve Collins is NOT better than Ricky Hatton

                      2) Neither is Sven Ottke. Skills wise Ottke is better, but the waters have been murkied by too many screw-jobs in germany.

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