Is Hatton One of the Top 30 Fighters of the Last Decade?

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  • Parody
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    #111
    I do think Hatton can easily be one of the top 20 fighters since 1997, i dont hate on him or anything infact i watch most of his fights, he has had some exciting fights, and i think if he fights in the welterweight division he can achieve almost everything, Mayweather,Cotto, Williams,etc there are many fights for him there rather than light welterweight, but i dont think he will move up because of what happened in the collazo fight and he turned down Mayweather couple of times saying he wasnt ready yet.

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    • Technical_Skill
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      #112
      Originally posted by OASIS_LAD
      This is what it should be, but lots of people seem to be making up their own criteria.
      Here's my Criteria,

      Skils

      Skills

      and some more Skill.

      Thats how you decide who the best fighters are.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Technical_Skill
        Great list, similar to mine, i hope you understand i have to be critical.

        1) Steve Collins is NOT better than Ricky Hatton

        2) Neither is Sven Ottke. Skills wise Ottke is better, but the waters have been murkied by too many screw-jobs in germany.
        I said in terms of achievements, Collins beat Nigel Ben Twice, Chris Eubank twice, both of these legend he beat them twice, i know they were far from their primes but its still a better achievement.

        Ottke I dont like him, he always got ****ing gift decisions and to be honest I would even go on to say Hatton is more skilled than him, although i do admit i havent seen enough of him to comment further on skill, obviously hatton is a better fighter than ottke as well. but again the accomplishments were better, robberies or not W is a W, there were couple of robberies and couple of legit but he defended his title 20 times.

        All 30 of those I listed IMO have achieved far more but Hatton can catch up, thats my true opinion.

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        • Technical_Skill
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          #114
          Originally posted by Parody
          I said in terms of achievements, Collins beat Nigel Ben Twice, Chris Eubank twice, both of these legend he beat them twice, i know they were far from their primes but its still a better achievement.

          Ottke I dont like him, he always got ****ing gift decisions and to be honest I would even go on to say Hatton is more skilled than him, obviously a better fighter than ottke as well. but again the accomplishments were better, robberies or not W is a W, there were couple of robberies and couple of legit but he defended his title 20 times.
          Yeah but Ottke deserves special treatment, he got those achivements via illegal judges who were no doubt involved in some kind of mafia like activity. lol

          How has steve Collins achived more than Ricky Hatton?

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          • .Mik.
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            #115
            Originally posted by Technical_Skill
            Here's my Criteria,

            Skils

            Skills

            and some more Skill.

            Thats how you decide who the best fighters are.
            It cant JUST go on skill. You can be the most skillful fighter in the world, but if you've got no heart then how can he possibly be a top fighter? If you've got no determination, no chin, no strength, no motivation etc etc etc.

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            • Parody
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              #116
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              Yeah but Ottke deserves special treatment, he got those achivements via illegal judges who were no doubt involved in some kind of mafia like activity. lol

              How has steve Collins achived more than Ricky Hatton?
              Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank in my opinion are greats. both good fighters, Collins beat Nigel Benn TWICE both by TKO, Then beat Eubank TWICE, both by decision, then beat one or two C level fighters and retired, the fact is he beat legends in eubank and benn, even though they were past their prime that achievement is better than Hatton's IMO.

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              • Technical_Skill
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                #117
                Originally posted by Miksterious
                It cant JUST go on skill. You can be the most skillful fighter in the world, but if you've got no heart then how can he possibly be a top fighter? If you've got no determination, no chin, no strength, no motivation etc etc etc.
                It takes skills to protect your chin

                The more Skills you have the less heart and determination you need,

                And besides heart is very subjective, right down your alley, you know how hard it would be to do a top 30 based on heart?

                Of course i didnt mean that last comment literally, it was smart-assed, but you know what im about,

                Skills pay the bills.

                lol.

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                • Oasis_Lad
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                  Here's my Criteria,

                  Skils

                  Skills

                  and some more Skill.

                  Thats how you decide who the best fighters are.
                  That's just being extremely ignorant on your part then.

                  There are so many variables to take into account, that basing your opinion of Hatton and of this poll, purely on skill..... makes it seem like your mind was already made up in the first place and is not likely to be changed.

                  Therefore, if you can't come into a poll of this sort with an objective frame of mind...... then don't come into it at all.

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                  • Technical_Skill
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by OASIS_LAD
                    That's just being extremely ignorant on your part then.

                    There are so many variables to take into account, that basing your opinion of Hatton and of this poll, purely on skill..... makes it seem like your mind was already made up in the first place and is not likely to be changed.

                    Therefore, if you can't come into a poll of this sort with an objective frame of mind...... then don't come into it at all.
                    Its wrong to come into a poll with an idea of how you are going to vote?

                    If you really wanna judge hatton on achivements, no, beating one class fighter doesnt make you top 30.

                    It was loose comment as explained above, you can pull your pants up now, i fancy a night infront of the telly.

                    lol.

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                    • Oasis_Lad
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                      Its wrong to come into a poll with an idea of how you are going to vote?

                      If you really wanna judge hatton on achivements, no, beating one class fighter doesnt make you top 30.

                      It was loose comment as explained above, you can pull your pants up now, i fancy a night infront of the telly.

                      lol.
                      You named your 30 fighters to Miksterious, so I'd appreciate you naming their achievements ( since 1997 ) and why they are better than Hatton ( Again, since 1997 ) please ?

                      Again, Stop ending every rant of yours with some random abstract phrase and then ending it in a derisive "LOL" - It's annoying and just makes you look like a fool.

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