Where Do You Rank Mayweather's All-Time?
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How do I rate mayweather's CAREER? Strictly on career, he doesn't even break the top 100. You be had pressed to find a Hall of famer with a crappier career.
Now, if it's on TALENT.....mayweather breaks the top 20 easy.Comment
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3.Go home
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Top 20 with everything factored in Career and skills. Individually, Career not even in top 100, skills-top 15Last edited by Don Johnson; 06-12-2007, 08:47 PM.Comment
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I agree with that.
If its on skills top 20 but on some real ****, Floyd has not showed that he could take a hit from a worthy opponent. When those type of opportunities arrive he avoids showing any of that. I'm not saying he just get hit in the head and **** himself up. But if he could have taken a shot from Oscar and showed that its nothing then he would get more respect than he got for his skills alone...feel me? I mean we watch him do the same stuff every time. When he fights you know hes going to avoid getting hit. Yes Floyd knows how to win which he does well, but if u look at all the champs from the past they all showed they good take a hit even if they fall down. It shows that they are vulnerable and you can respect that instead of looking down upon it. Floyd gets respect on his skill alone but to make a fight more exciting you have to be willing to trade shots. For anyone thats going try and turn this **** around tell me this...wouldn't the De la Hoya fight been more exciting if Floyd took good hits in the fight and showed something different? This is not an attack on Floyd just remember that.Comment
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Are people not reading the vote? It says "Best career" I.E. Based on win/loss and level of opposition.
His 'talent' and 'skill' do not enter into the Conversation. This is not a discussion of how good he is, but how good is what he has done.
His Career thus far is decent, certainly a career worthy of a hall of famer (I've had to lower my expectations of what a hall of famer is recently), but it barely cracks the top 100. He's never fought in a great fight. Period. He never found the lacy to his calzaghe, or better yet the morales to his barrera. He's had a relatively short career (less than 40 fights), thus negating the impressiveness of him being undefeated. He also has a very low percentage of notable wins (I'd say about 5 truly notable wins). Of those notable wins, few were won in an impressive fashion (2). He's even managed to appear lackluster vs those not in his league (Baldy).
Of his last year of fights, none were won in any kind of impressive fashion and left any kind of long lasting impression on the sport, unless you count the negative impact DLH vs PBH had on the willingness of the public to purchase PPVs.
I won't go into margarito in depth, but that was one of the biggest (and most expensive) missed oppurtunities of his career. If Margarito had come in the way he came in vs clottey, it would've been an easy win. So easy he would've been up for baldy in the fall of '06. This would've meant he'd taken out the top three of the division (at the time) in under a year, and would not only have been an impressive feat, but would've assisted fighting his 'cowardice' image tremendously (who would've haters rallied behind then? Paul williams?! lol).
His career is nothing more than a novelty at this stage of his career, akin to that of a poorly written WWE villian. Sad for a fighter of his potential.
With all this, no. He has not had a career that really beats anyones in the top 60 (that is to say, it isn' really challenging finding 60 other fighters with better overall careers). The DLH fight in particular, is not a fight to hang one's career on. It is a fight that begins a career, that shows everyone your the guy to look out for, that you really ARE deserving of being on the P4P list (not being No.1 mind you). It is not a fight to cement one's legacy.Comment
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Obviously it seems that people are forgetting that boxing existed before Mayweather arrived on the scene. Just reading some of the posts about Mayweather in the top 10 and 20 of all time is making my head spin like the exorcist. This is not about the best fighter in the past 10 yrs it's about in the history of boxing. If you really believe that he belongs among the giants and legends of boxing that are still talked about today then you need to immerse yourself in some Boxing 101.Comment
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Top 50. I don't see how you can make a case for any higher as there are som many fights he could've taken between 130 and 147 that he didn't. If mayweather decides not to retire and beats hatton, cotto and mosely, i would put him in the top 20.Comment
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