De La Hoya-Mayweather Post Comments (Threads Merged)

[bishop2006]

1-Oscar's Jab. I completely disagree about how good his jab was. Alot of people are saying that Oscar wouldve won the fight if he wouldve stayed with his jab since it was so successful. I too thought he jab was very good but I think it was only that good because he seldomly used it. He caught Floyd off guard every time he used it. Thats why Floyd smiled after it all the time. If Oscar wouldve did that all fight then it wouldnt have worked. The whole reason why it was so great was because it came out of nowhere. If he threw it all the time then Floyd wouldve easily took that away like he took his left away. Floyd is the best in boxing right now at making adjustments. Thats the reason why I think he would definatly beat Mosley. Shane fights the same way no matter what and cant make changes. Floyd can always adjust during a fight. I was watching his early fights on ESPN last night and even back then Al Bernstien was talking about how Floyd made an adjustment early in the 2nd round. You dont see that from young fighters. Oscar's jab is good and worked well but only because it was seldomly used.

2- Oscar's flurries. I have to go back and rewatch it to see what round it was in but I think it was like the 5th or 6th round. This was at the time when the commentators were sweating Oscar. In that round Floyd was already doing his thing in the Center of the ring but for some reason the commentators kept talking about Oscar. Then Oscar got Floyd on the ropes and unleashes a big time flurry. The crowd and the commentators went crazy. I was screaming at the TV because I saw something totally different. Right when Oscar was about to start the flurry, Floyd timed him and caught him flush with a blistering right that basically buckled Oscar, then he goes on to block like the next 5 punches while everyone is going crazy, and then he throws another straight right that again catches Oscar flush, and ends by blocking all the rest of the punches in the flurry. I think Lederman saw this because he gave the round to Floyd. Then after the round they showed the replay and guess what they showed? They showed Floyd landing that big right, blocking like the next 4 or 5 punches and then countering with another straight right but the replay cuts off right before it lands. The idiot commentators were to dumb to even realize that it was the same flurry they went crazy about. To me that just summed up the whole fight because there were alot of situations like that in the fight although less dramatic. I bet you guys will see those things when you rewatch it.

3- The 12th round. I like to call 12th rounds the "stat padders". They make fights look closer then they seem. Alot of people gave this round to Oscar but I thought Floyd couldve definatly won it. Still, the only reason why it went like that is because the fight was basically over. You could tell in the corner after the 11th that Floyd's corner felt they had the fight in the bag and Oscar's corner basically felt they needed a KO or atleast finish really strong. If Floyd felt the fight was in doubt then he wouldve fought differently. You could easily tell he relaxed. If he didnt do that then he wouldve killed Oscar like he was doing the previous few rounds. Thats why I dont even count the 12th round in alot of these kind of fights. Most people who had it 7-5 for Floyd gave the 12th to Oscar. To me it wasnt a real round because you could tell that Floyd basically cruised while Oscar tried very hard. That means coming into that round you had it 7-4 for Floyd and thats how the fight really was. Alot of people had it 8-4 for Floyd but gave Oscar the 12th. Again, that shouldve been 8-3 for Floyd. Even the HBO commentators knew the fight wasnt in doubt when the 12th round hit.

U should have heard Sky Sports commentary,it was terrible,Mayweathers throwing punches,Oscars stalking,barely throwing,there so busy talking about Oscar they dont even see what Floyd is doing,then they basicly gave the round to Oscar,they did this in so many occasions i was screamin at the tv,like wait the **** up n watch whats happening instead of talking about one fighter and when he flurrys at the end give the round to him

[ThaHorseman]

So essentially you want to see Margarito get chewed up by Mayweather as he moves laterally around the ring and Margarito walks him down eating up power shots all night and looking confused and not knowing how to adjust because hes a ****ing moron in the ring with bad footwork and no headmovement. Then youd come on and complain about that fight too because its not "entertaining" and hes "running". Please.

Exactly. And after it happens to Margarito all the Floyd-haters will want to see it happen to another, and another, and another. Floyd will dominate them all, but they'll still talk ****.

[MetalVomit]

OK, I'm starting to recover from my hangover, going to watch it sober now.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

So essentially you want to see Margarito get chewed up by Mayweather as he moves laterally around the ring and Margarito walks him down eating up power shots all night and looking confused and not knowing how to adjust because hes a ****ing moron in the ring with bad footwork and no headmovement. Then youd come on and complain about that fight too because its not "entertaining" and hes "running". Please.

Exactly what I was going to say. People make excuses about Floyd's opponents, but what they don't understand or are not willing to admit is that a lot of Floyd's opponents are quality, but Floyd is just that much better than them. He makes them look like they are bad boxers.

What's up with these people wanting to see Floyd face Margarito. Don't they realize that if DLH looked confused and couldn't find PBF that Margarito couldn't either. DLH is way more skilled than Margarito. I could see the fight right now. Margarito would stalk Mayweather all night and look confused and could never find him. Floyd would rock him from the outside and if Marg did get him up against the ropes Floyd would slip out and proceed to pound him. I would even go as far to say that PBF would win by shutout. The only way Margarito would win a round would be because he outworked Floyd.

[jswa17]

Trying to win fan support by saying he pushed the fight and is the reason there was a fight. Hey, Oscar, you did do that, but you also got nailed with every ****in jab Mayweather threw. If you get points for blocking with your face, I gotta give it to Oscar by a landslide. That is how Mexicans score, isn't it?

every ****in jab mayweather threw? far from the truth

he blocked most of them on/between his gloves. ur the one who's clearly biased, stop hatin

[deliveryman]

U should have heard Sky Sports commentary,it was terrible,Mayweathers throwing punches,Oscars stalking,barely throwing,there so busy talking about Oscar they dont even see what Floyd is doing,then they basicly gave the round to Oscar,they did this in so many occasions i was screamin at the tv,like wait the **** up n watch whats happening instead of talking about one fighter and when he flurrys at the end give the round to him

Curious, how did SkySports score the fight?

[ceboxer15]

A lot of people are criticising Mayweather for 'Runnin' and not just standing toe to toe and trading punches but we all know thats the way he fights!! Thats his style and skill! He hits and doesn't get hit, its a skill and I like seeing it! Do I like a war, hell yeah, but do I appreciate seeing tactical battles and slick moves to avoid punches, damn right! We knew this wouldn't be a war! I watched live and really enjoyed the fight! I couldn't take my eyes off it and it was so close! Oscar put in a great performance but tired out towards the end. At the end I was on the edge of my seat awaiting the verdict and I do think Floyd edged it on points in my opinion! It did a lot for boxing with all the attention it got and even got on UK radio, which surprised me! I give props to Oscar for making it a close fight but Floyd did fight for this win but used his skill to avoid DLH's flurries! PBF was more precise in landing I felt where DLH seemed to miss more than he hit although he did land quite a bit!! I liked it!

thank you, someone finally explains that it's skill. saying Floyd was runnin is like saying that Ali, Leonard, and Robinson did was run.

[kryo]

Every person I know that has watched the fight, other than most of you guys who are obviously boxing experts who enjoy skilled boxers, thought the fight was entertaining as hell. Everytime DLH would flurry and do absolutely nothing against Mayweather, everyone would ****ing scream; not only in the crowds but in the pro-DLH crowd I was watching it with. They don't realize that DLH would land 1/2 of a punch out of 9 every time.. so everyone goes ****ing crazy. The end of the fight was a perfect ending as well, they both stood toe-to-toe and Floyd got his ass whacked a couple of times. What suprised me was how the **** DLH got a win on a judges score card.. whatever. The fight was good and "entertaining" to the normal viewer.. sorry you experts were thoroughly disappointed by Floyd's obvious skill.

PS. "Willie Pep was amazing! Best defensive fighter ever! He won one round without throwing a punch!" And somehow most of you ***gots don't find Floyd Mayweather entertaining. ****ing hypocrits..

[bishop2006]

Curious, how did SkySports score the fight?

115-114 Mayweather,but they were on Oscars ****,a first for SKy Sports,they normally tell it how it is,but they were so busy talking about Oscar they didnt see what Floyd was doing,they were like ' OSCAR IS CONTROLING THE PACE RIGHT NOW,MAYWEATHER IS JUST DOING 1-2's ' but while they were saying that,Oscar did not throw a single punch , but yeh they had Mayweather winning,so did the guys in the studio

[Peterp]

i watched this very closely, 90 percent of floyd's jabs were weak and Oscar parried them away with his gloves or caught them ! Hardly any actually got through.