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  • PunchDrunk
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    #41
    Originally posted by Miksterious
    Because Warren doesnt want the fight in the US, he wants it in the UK. In the UK Calzaghe sells out bigger venues, its a bigger boxing country, it has better television rights. Calzaghe is the bigger draw and his belt is the most important one in the division. He is the number 1 in the division..
    And that is exactly the same reasoning Palle has for wanting the fight in Denmark.
    Calzaghe is the bigger draw in the Uk, yes. Kessler is the bigger draw in Denmark. Who the bigger draw is in the US, or somewhere else neutral, well I'd like to see some numbers on that one.
    Calzaghe is the number one in the division, yes. For now. But if you think the WBO belt is bigger than either one of the WBC and WBA belts, let alone both of them at the same time, you must be delirious?

    Originally posted by Miksterious
    On the other hand, Palle and Kessler have both said that they will fight Calzaghe anywere for any price. The money is a good amount of money, it'd be one of if not Calzaghe's absolute best pay-days once the TV and PPV sales come into it (providing thats an accurate offer that has been made). I'm sure that Warren and Calzaghe would've accepted the offer there and then if it was to be made for the US. Instead, there needs to be another stage of negotiations when it could just be made now.
    Anywhere yes, any price no. In the real world, obviously Kessler is gonna want significantly more money to fight in the UK, as opposed to anywhere else. Look at what happened to Manfredo. Is that not a nightmare scenario for any potential Calzaghe opponent?
    I think Kessler's shown he's willing to go into the other guy's backyard. Australia is a long way from home for a first title defence. Especially when you take into consideration he had a pretty bad back injury, and wasn't able to train much for that fight.
    If the fight is to be made in the US, which I would certainly prefer as well (only fair way to do it), then I think you need some other people involved. Palle is not gonna stage a fight like that in the US, and neither is Warren. That is wishful thinking, IMO, and is not gonna happen. I guess they'll need HBO to come in and make it happen, if it's gonna be in the US.

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    • paulstokes2432
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      #42
      Originally posted by PunchDrunk
      And that is exactly the same reasoning Palle has for wanting the fight in Denmark.
      Calzaghe is the bigger draw in the Uk, yes. Kessler is the bigger draw in Denmark. Who the bigger draw is in the US, or somewhere else neutral, well I'd like to see some numbers on that one.
      Calzaghe is the number one in the division, yes. For now. But if you think the WBO belt is bigger than either one of the WBC and WBA belts, let alone both of them at the same time, you must be delirious?



      Anywhere yes, any price no. In the real world, obviously Kessler is gonna want significantly more money to fight in the UK, as opposed to anywhere else. Look at what happened to Manfredo. Is that not a nightmare scenario for any potential Calzaghe opponent?
      I think Kessler's shown he's willing to go into the other guy's backyard. Australia is a long way from home for a first title defence. Especially when you take into consideration he had a pretty bad back injury, and wasn't able to train much for that fight.
      If the fight is to be made in the US, which I would certainly prefer as well (only fair way to do it), then I think you need some other people involved. Palle is not gonna stage a fight like that in the US, and neither is Warren. That is wishful thinking, IMO, and is not gonna happen. I guess they'll need HBO to come in and make it happen, if it's gonna be in the US.
      Do you not think the fight could happen in london with an american or neutral ref? I'm sure danes would travel in big numbers to londan and make it an amazing atmosphere much better than if it was in the US? I agree with what you said about the WBO compared to the WBC WBA but in a day and ages with so many tittles the fighter makes the tittle the tittle doesn't make the fighter and although lacy was overhyped he was considered by many the best in the division and was completely embarrassed making Joe #1.

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        #43
        Originally posted by PunchDrunk
        And that is exactly the same reasoning Palle has for wanting the fight in Denmark.
        Calzaghe is the bigger draw in the Uk, yes. Kessler is the bigger draw in Denmark. Who the bigger draw is in the US, or somewhere else neutral, well I'd like to see some numbers on that one.
        Calzaghe is the number one in the division, yes. For now. But if you think the WBO belt is bigger than either one of the WBC and WBA belts, let alone both of them at the same time, you must be delirious?



        Anywhere yes, any price no. In the real world, obviously Kessler is gonna want significantly more money to fight in the UK, as opposed to anywhere else. Look at what happened to Manfredo. Is that not a nightmare scenario for any potential Calzaghe opponent?
        I think Kessler's shown he's willing to go into the other guy's backyard. Australia is a long way from home for a first title defence. Especially when you take into consideration he had a pretty bad back injury, and wasn't able to train much for that fight.
        If the fight is to be made in the US, which I would certainly prefer as well (only fair way to do it), then I think you need some other people involved. Palle is not gonna stage a fight like that in the US, and neither is Warren. That is wishful thinking, IMO, and is not gonna happen. I guess they'll need HBO to come in and make it happen, if it's gonna be in the US.
        Well said my friend!

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          #44
          Originally posted by paulstokes2432
          Do you not think the fight could happen in london with an american or neutral ref? I'm sure danes would travel in big numbers to londan and make it an amazing atmosphere much better than if it was in the US? I agree with what you said about the WBO compared to the WBC WBA but in a day and ages with so many tittles the fighter makes the tittle the tittle doesn't make the fighter and although lacy was overhyped he was considered by many the best in the division and was completely embarrassed making Joe #1.
          You've to understand govner, that American refs and judges can be easily bought!

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            #45
            Originally posted by PunchDrunk
            Untrue. Warren SAID he offered $3 million, but in reality it was only $1.75 million. There's an article on this site, where the writer has seen the written offer from Warren, so it's pretty safe to say that is a fact.
            dunno about the articles but i heard it from his mouth in the post fight conf that he did offer kessler 4 mil for a fight in july.

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            • paulstokes2432
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              #46
              Originally posted by Gunstar1
              You've to understand govner, that American refs and judges can be easily bought!
              Lol ok fair point but when i say american i mean any neutral ref that can be agreed on by both parties.

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              • Technical_Skill
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                #47
                Unless im missing something, they are both HBO Fighters, or have been shown on HBO, therefore they can do this fight, in America, netural ground, with a US ref.

                If they do the fight in America and put a decent undercard on it, who knows, they MIGHT be able to do a PPV,

                Regardless wouldnt this give both fighters the expousure they need?

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                • paulstokes2432
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                  Unless im missing something, they are both HBO Fighters, or have been shown on HBO, therefore they can do this fight, in America, netural ground, with a US ref.

                  If they do the fight in America and put a decent undercard on it, who knows, they MIGHT be able to do a PPV,

                  Regardless wouldnt this give both fighters the expousure they need?
                  This is true tech i would think tho that it would be expensive for HBO as they would need to make up the money that would be lost in gate receipts. I don't know what this fight would draw in the US but it wouldn't come close to the 30-40,000 it could get in europe wouldn't u agree?

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                  • gigogreco
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by paulstokes2432
                    Do you not think the fight could happen in london with an american or neutral ref? I'm sure danes would travel in big numbers to londan and make it an amazing atmosphere much better than if it was in the US? I agree with what you said about the WBO compared to the WBC WBA but in a day and ages with so many tittles the fighter makes the tittle the tittle doesn't make the fighter and although lacy was overhyped he was considered by many the best in the division and was completely embarrassed making Joe #1.
                    london is hardly a neutral.. being joe is the boy toy of britain, it seems on these threads..

                    it could easily be held in denmark with the exact same attendance as in wales or england.. for the andrade figth they had aprox 20000, and for this they could without a doubt fill our danish national football stadium. aprox 45000-50000.. the fight wouldnt generate more money in england, unless the attendance surpasses the capacity of the our national arena..

                    tv rights the same
                    hbo money the same
                    attendance aprox the same
                    ppv the same

                    so if palle has the cash to pay calzaghe 5 mil $$$ to come over here and fight, then warren, if he wants the fight in britain, should be able to match this offer..

                    palle is wisely negotiating, and warren now has to step up..

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                    • paulstokes2432
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by gigogreco
                      london is hardly a neutral.. being joe is the boy toy of britain, it seems on these threads..

                      it could easily be held in denmark with the exact same attendance as in wales or england.. for the andrade figth they had aprox 20000, and for this they could without a doubt fill our danish national football stadium. aprox 45000-50000.. the fight wouldnt generate more money in england, unless the attendance surpasses the capacity of the our national arena..

                      tv rights the same
                      hbo money the same
                      attendance aprox the same
                      ppv the same

                      so if palle has the cash to pay calzaghe 5 mil $$$ to come over here and fight, then warren, if he wants the fight in britain, should be able to match this offer..

                      palle is wisely negotiating, and warren now has to step up..
                      I'm not debating any of what you have said. I just don't see Joe taking the fight in Denmark i think its a much more likely that Kessler would come to the UK to take the fight. And yes Joe would still have a home advantage but london is not too far for the danes to travel and for kessler fans who want to attend the fight going to london would be alot easier than going to the US.

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