I hate when you guys consider yourselves martial artists, because you're not one, you guys don't know **** about martial arts or boxing, you guys do a pretty bad job at both! The only thing you guys are good in is a little wrestling and take downs which any idiot can learn within a few months.
You guys claim that boxing is part of your combat, but the fact is none of your top MMA guys can box, they can lose in a boxing ring by a bum non-professional boxer, that's my point!
You are comparing two completely different sports. MMA athletes are the most well rounded fighters in the world. Boxers are much more specialized.
You sound like a dumbass. Wrestlers are not boxers, so why are you even bringing some **** about some guy shrek taking down wrestlers....???Wrestlers come forward, unlike boxers that could use footwork and good jabs. This ***got sherk won't be able to take down a fast fighter like Floyd regardless of how much wrestlers you said he's taken down.
i've been an amatuer boxer and kickboxer and i've trained BJJ... anyone trained in MMA will tell you that footwork and a jab is not an effective way to avoid a takedown... you have to sprawl.... Boxers are not use to someone shooting at their feet and knees.... and for a boxer to throw a knockout blow their feet will more than likely have to be planted and thus they get takin down...
First off there are some dumb people on this thread, though I know this happens on all forums this one has amazed me. This mostly goes out to the guy who said "the ******ia high school shooting" because he is not intelligent enough to know that ******ia Tech is not a high school.
On to Bob Sapp, yes he beat Ernesto Hoost. Of course you know that was K-1 (kickboxing rules) not MMA rules. That was pretty much a freak thing though because for whatever reason Hoost just couldn't handle Sapp, but Crocop did make him cry though in under 2 minutes. Nowadays, no one is scared of Sapp anymore and he pretty much is considered a freakshow in the MMA community.
Seriously, you get all the dudes coming out of the woodwork like mice talking about MMA on a boxing forum, lol.
I didnt say MMA guys were not athletes.
Cro crop killed bob sapp, But sapp beating hoost was not freakish, know why? he beat him again (im pretty sure) didnt he also knockout Kimo and other top K1 guys?
yep he did.
I can only say what i have always said, a boxer would always have a punchers chance in the UFC,
UFC guys dont even have that in a boxing ring.
Yes id fancy any Jujitsu guys against a boxer in MMA rules everyday of the week.
Sorry alot these guys are NOT proper martial artists, i keep telling you people, they are athletes trained in aspects of Martial Arts, they only seek to emulate the effects of Martial arts rather than learning it for its proper use,
The art of well being through protection,
take some of these guys to parts of China where real Martial arts are studied. and there would be an outrage,
Some of These guys dont even train in the arts, not fully, their minds cant engage with the concept of using energy in certain parts of the body to create proper forces, instead they stand flat footed and throw with all their might.
In china they understand the concept of the arts to the point where they realise a simple transfer of energy, needed to neutralise a threat can only be created through a journey of self discovery and knowledge, you cant pop down to the local gym and learn a few holds lol.
Thats the reason why some 50 year old men who actually know the arts could take these guys down with one single shot,
Size and strength is alot more of a factor in MMA because alot of the guys are psuedo Martial artists, techique means less.
In boxing technique has been perfected to a degree where guys can move up from 130 pounds and become world champions at 160 pounds,
This is because the technique and art of boxing is such that Size and strength pale in comparison to techinque.
The equivalent is not the same in MMA.
Having said that, there are some stand out fighters in the MMA genre, The Gracie's clearly understand what and how the arts are learnt.
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