Do you think Joe Calzaghe is ducking Kessler??

[karlobarlo]

I really dont think Calzaghe is ducking him. Calzaghe is really looking for this big fight in the USA, thats why he is fighting Manfredo (it offers bugger all else but a chance to once again get recognised in the states). It is probable that he is thinking why would I take a big chance against a Kessler
1) He is a very live opponent
2)but compared to Taylor, Winky, Hopkins etc he just isnt as big a name
3)I would make much more money fighting one of them and gain greater prestige so no point taking a chance fighting Kessler so soon!

There is no point in Joe fighting Kessler now when he has two or three more fights left. I personally think that that Joe will fight him, but not just yet!

There is definitely no justification for saying that he is ducking Kessler! Calzaghe has been calling out people like Winky Taylor Bhop for ages but its sadly all about business, especially when Frank ****ing Warren is involved!

[riza]

u cant blame joe for choosing hopkins, wright or taylor over kessler. jus because he andrade it dont mean he can beat or even compete with fighters like calzaghe. andrade is jus to sloppy with no skill, any decent fighter would have battered him.

[MickyHatton]

Calzaghe is ducking nobody, he is a champion and has been for around 10 years, Kessler obviously craves the Calzaghe fight and rightly so but Calzaghe needs to earn big money in his remaining few fights. Manfredo is a PR stunt to achieve his aim of a big fight on PPV with a Hopkins, Wright or even Taylor, if Kessler was a big name in the States Calzaghe would look to fight him.

At the end of the day boxing is a business, Calzaghe couldn't give a **** about who we want him to fight he is thinking about securing the future for him and his family.

Its a similar scenario to Calzaghe and Roy Jones Jnr, Calzaghe constantly called for the fight but RJJ had bigger fish to fry at that time so it never happened, Jones obviously didn't duck Calzaghe, he just made business decisions based on that period.

[GunStar]

It took Calzaghe forever to get in the ring with Lacy and now he's playing the same games with Kessler.Calzaghe thought Lacy was the fight to set his legacy, but its pretty obvious Kessler is the guy he must face.

Exactly! It took forever to fight Lacy but to be honest with you I think Calzaghe knows Kessler is a guy who can box and beat him, I don't like to use the word ducking but Cal has been playing around for too damn long, come on why fight a guy like Manfredo where you can make much more money fighting the WBC and WBA champ in Kessler.

Yea Cal mentions Hopkins, Wright and Taylor but he's not fighting any of these 3 guys, also none of those 3 guys are in the Super Middleweight division, Kessler is the man he needs to fight if he wants the world to respect him.

BTW I was never high on Lacy and I've always said put him against a guy who can box he will lose, everyone thought I was full of **** at that time, will I guess I was right!

[GunStar]

Don't go to other boxing forums. I can name a few places where Calzaghe gets less respect and where the hardcore Calzaghe hugger contingent is far fewer.

All we hear is talk - we've not seen any yet. And in any event - who are those fighters you call "bigger"? "bigger" in what way?


Look over Kessler's past 5 opponents (his championship fights) Except Lucas they've all been ranked top 5 by the Ring (at time of fights). Now Kessler couldn't fight himself and neither Calzaghe nor Lacy would get anywhere near him. So in reality that has only left two options inside top five for each of those fights. Four times out of five Kessler has fought one of those two options. Lucas was just a little further down the rankings. So to say Kessler hasn't been fighting the other contenders is just BS. He's fought the best available.
Bute is a newcommer to the top - even his fans suggest he should wait another year before taking on the likes of Kessler. And to suggest Kessler should have fought Froch in order to be worthy of a shot at Calzaghe is just so plain ridiculous you have to be british to not almost break down and cry.



Has he now?
How manny undefeated has he fought?
How manny of his opponents have fought and beat five current or former WC's (with one of the four major org's) - and that excludes Mundine, who only had a WBA "regular" belt.
How manny of his opponents have lost less than 5 rounds over their entire careers (up to the date of the fight)?
How manny of his oppnents have had no less than four WC defences?
How many of those fighters have remained ranked (by the ring) just behind Calzaghe for more than three years?
How manny of those oppenent are have been regularly tipped to have a good chance of beating Calzaghe - by a wide range of boxing writers and observers?

For each question you can possibly come up with a few names from Calzaghe's list of opponents. But no name will show up for each question. Kessler's would.

Yet you choose to pretend Kessler is less of a challenge than other names on Calzaghe's resume.
Obviously you WANT to believe that Calzaghe is untouchable. And you're desperately trying to close your eyes to the realities of the outside world.
So you keep pretending "Kessler is just another..." - but there are no others of that calibre on that list of yours.
All so you can keep trying to convince yourself (and others) that there's nooooo reason Calzaghe should fight Kessler. Again so you won't risk seeing your precious illussion shattered.

Good post!!!!!!!

[hugh grant]

Befor Joe whipped lacys ass, Lacy was supposed to be a right ole badass and Joe didnt duck him, and actually relished the challenge. Kessler aint known to be a even badder ass than Lacy at this stage so why would Joe duck Kessler? Joe didnt get any credit for beating Lacy, so it is almost as if Joe feels he woulndt get credit for beating Kessler and Joe might as well chase the bigger fish and that is what he is doing.

Joe cant be wasting time now because he is in his mid thirties.

[GunStar]

Befor Joe whipped lacys ass, Lacy was supposed to be a right ole badass and Joe didnt duck him, and actually relished the challenge. Kessler aint known to be a even badder ass than Lacy at this stage so why would Joe duck Kessler? Joe didnt get any credit for beating Lacy, so it is almost as if Joe feels he woulndt get credit for beating Kessler and Joe might as well chase the bigger fish and that is what he is doing.

Joe cant be wasting time now because he is in his mid thirties.

Actually Joe got alot of credit for beating Lacy, suddenly everyone jumped on Joe's nuts after the Lacy fight.

[The_Candle]

ye he is without a doubt.....calzaghe is **** and lost 2 robin reed hahahaha....he should step up and fight bundrage or sechew powell or even kessler like som1 has alredy said.

[hugh grant]

Actually Joe got alot of credit for beating Lacy, suddenly everyone jumped on Joe's nuts after the Lacy fight.

Yep but for everyone that gave Joe the credit he deserved there were people who were saying Lacy was overrated, especially with his last perfermance.
What i am saying is what reason has Joe to be ducking Kessler? Kessler is just another in line of opponents who is supposed to be able to beat Joe but who dont. If joe was to deal with these guys all the time he wouldnt be able to go after the established guys and acheive his own goals.

[GunStar]

Yep but for everyone that gave Joe the credit he deserved there were people who were saying Lacy was overrated, especially with his last perfermance.
What i am saying is what reason has Joe to be ducking Kessler? Kessler is just another in line of opponents who is supposed to be able to beat Joe but who dont. If joe was to deal with these guys all the time he wouldnt be able to go after the established guys and acheive his own goals.

I considerd Lacy overrated before the Calzaghe fight, yea I know I was one of the few on this forum.

After watching some fights from Kessler I knew he's the real deal, so yes I do believe that Kessler is the best boxer in the super middleweight division.

Kessler is not just another guy, the guys owns 2 of the major belt and is trying to make the best fight possible at 168, how can you not respect that.

As for Joe going after the more established guys, will I don't see it happening!

Joe can probably make more money in Europe fighting Kessler then he can fighting a guy like Winky Wright in the states!