Do you think Joe Calzaghe is ducking Kessler??

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  • FeelTheA-Force
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    #11
    Originally posted by boogbx
    clearly Calzaghe has. I mean Calzaghe has fought nobodies for most of his career, and Kessler has been calling him out for a minute now. In terms of europe, Kessler is huge, and this is the fight people have talked about for years, so there is absolutely no reason not to have this fight.

    In fact now more than ever, I wouldn't be surprised if Showtime were willing to shell out the big bucks for it, cuz both these guys now got american die hard fand wanting to see more. I've seen enough of Calzaghe though to know, that Kessler beats him down.
    in 1998 Joe was on his 3rd defence of the world title..

    he had beaten

    Branko Sobot

    Chris Eubank

    Stephen Wilson

    Mark Delaney

    while Kessler was a baby fighting bums..

    10 year champ.. vs 3 year carreer of kesslers..

    ENOUGH SAID

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    • jangeorg
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      #12
      Originally posted by Gunstar1
      I know Kessler been calling Joe out for a long time but Joe gives different reasons for not fighting Kessler.

      In your honest opinion do you think Joe is avoiding Mikkel Kessler??

      Kessler owns two of the 3 major belts, the WBC and the WBA, so why this fight isn't happening??

      It took Calzaghe forever to get in the ring with Lacy and now he's playing the same games with Kessler.Calzaghe thought Lacy was the fight to set his legacy, but its pretty obvious Kessler is the guy he must face.
      Last edited by jangeorg; 03-25-2007, 04:07 AM.

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      • dumdane
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        #13
        Originally posted by RESPECT
        in 1998 Joe was on his 3rd defence of the world title..

        he had beaten

        Branko Sobot

        Chris Eubank

        Stephen Wilson

        Mark Delaney

        while Kessler was a baby fighting bums..

        10 year champ.. vs 3 year carreer of kesslers..

        ENOUGH SAID
        So you've decided to live in the past, in order to allow Joe to retain a bit of credibility?

        Well enjoy your stay in 1998.

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        • !!! Beowulf !!!
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          #14
          Originally posted by jangeorg
          Yes, joe is ducking kessler and he will do it again,and if Calzaghe has seen the Kessler vs Andrade fight he will never has the courage to face Kessler
          Nobody with half a brain believed Andrade would be able to make life difficult for Kessler. Kessler just did what he was supposed to. No more, no less.

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          • Dimebar
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            #15
            In 2005 this Kessler guy said he 'wasn't ready' for Calzaghe or Lacy. Calzaghe wanted to fight him early in '05 and Lacy wanted to fight late in '05 - for his belt, he turned them both down.

            Kessler is probably nowhere near the class of guys like Hopkins, Wright and Taylor, one of those guys Calzaghe needs as his finale not some average European guy. This is a EUROPEAN fighter we're talking about here FFS, I've not seen him fight but I'm guessing all he ever does is stand up straight with his hands up and jab, jab, jab, right hand, jab, jab, jab, right hand, jab, jab, jab. Give me a break.

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            • HeartAttack
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              The thing is Calzaghe is looking for more lucrative fights. Well taylor is quickly losing fan support and respect for fighting only 154lbers in defense of his 160lb title. Manfredo has been served up to Calzaghe, he shouldn't be a problem. Bernard Hopkins and Calzaghe is somewhat of a boring fight and Winky truly is too small for Calzaghe. HBO or SHowtime would pay a couple million for rights to air the fight between Kessler and Calzaghe and both could make multi-millions off the purse, gate, and broadcasting rights in Europe. Financially the Kessler fight is starting to look like the best option and Calzaghe would do more for his legacy if he beat Kessler than all of his other fights combined. Lacy was supposed to beat Calzaghe and yes he put on a clinic, but one great win doesn't make him a legend. TNeither does two, but a win over Kessler would do a lot more for him than anyone else at this moment. Boxing fans and writers would be telling the tales of the skilled Calzaghe for years if he beats a prime Kessler, but if he beats an old Hopkins, the same people would be talking about how a prime Hopkins would've beaten him and so on and so forth.

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              • langshof
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dimebar
                In 2005 this Kessler guy said he 'wasn't ready' for Calzaghe or Lacy. Calzaghe wanted to fight him early in '05 and Lacy wanted to fight late in '05 - for his belt, he turned them both down.

                Kessler is probably nowhere near the class of guys like Hopkins, Wright and Taylor, one of those guys Calzaghe needs as his finale not some average European guy. This is a EUROPEAN fighter we're talking about here FFS, I've not seen him fight but I'm guessing all he ever does is stand up straight with his hands up and jab, jab, jab, right hand, jab, jab, jab, right hand, jab, jab, jab. Give me a break.

                You ignorant fool. Watch the man fight before judging him. Or at least read some of the objective posts that some of your fellow americans have made.
                Last edited by langshof; 03-25-2007, 04:54 AM. Reason: double quote

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                • dumdane
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dimebar
                  In 2005 this Kessler guy said he 'wasn't ready' for Calzaghe or Lacy. Calzaghe wanted to fight him early in '05 and Lacy wanted to fight late in '05 - for his belt, he turned them both down.

                  Kessler is probably nowhere near the class of guys like Hopkins, Wright and Taylor, one of those guys Calzaghe needs as his finale not some average European guy. This is a EUROPEAN fighter we're talking about here FFS, I've not seen him fight but I'm guessing all he ever does is stand up straight with his hands up and jab, jab, jab, right hand, jab, jab, jab, right hand, jab, jab, jab. Give me a break.
                  What a complete BS post.

                  What happened between Kessler and Lacy was if anything the exact opposite of what you try to portrait.

                  Lacy tried to use Kessler's name to apply pressure on Calzaghe in their very difficult negotiations. Kessler was well known to be out with a severe back-injury following the Mundine fight. Lacy called him out with short notice (but never made an actual offer) in order to strengthen his "I will fight anyone - anywhere" reputation - And to try to convince Calzaghe he could take his buisiness elsewher if Joe kept playing hard to get.
                  What he hadn't expected was that Kessler, despite not being clear of his injury, responded with an actual offer for a fight in Denmark OR Kessler would fight in the US for the exact same amount they offered Lacy to travel.
                  Lacy beat a hasty retreat and told the US press Kessler were making ridiculous demands. He completely "forgot" to mention that Kessler was offering as much as he was asking.
                  After that I've heard a number of Lacy-fans totally dismiss the Kessler offer, saying that "no small-time danish promotor could make that sort of offer for real" - so it had to be fake. However since then Kessler has offered and paid Markus Beyer about 1.3 mill$ (slightly more than he asked from/offered Lacy) to come to Copenhagen for a unification fight. So that argument simply doesn't hold up.

                  And as for the "he wasn't ready" quote remark, I think what you're actually refering to is one of LACY's trainers back in 2004 blurting out with a remark about LACY not being ready for Kessler yet - not the other way arround.

                  This is a EUROPEAN fighter we're talking about here FFS, I've not seen him fight but I'm guessing
                  In reality this part of your post really says it all.
                  Unbelieveable!
                  Last edited by dumdane; 03-25-2007, 05:28 AM.

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                  • Peder
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                    #19
                    JC is hard to figure out... at least 18 months goes by from the Lacy fight, before he (perhaps) takes a risky fight. He had everybody talking after the fight, he should have done something to keep that momentum.
                    Does he want to make a great fight, or a fight he can look great in?

                    I'm not sure. Ducking or wanting cash/fame above the best fights. I can't figure him out.

                    Fighters can’t live of their history, no disrespect to JC's record list.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Peder
                      JC is hard to figure out... at least 18 months goes by from the Lacy fight, before he (perhaps) takes a risky fight. He had everybody talking after the fight, he should have done something to keep that momentum.
                      Does he want to make a great fight, or a fight he can look great in?

                      I'm not sure. Ducking or wanting cash/fame above the best fights. I can't figure him out.

                      Fighters can’t live of their history, no disrespect to JC's record list.
                      Calzaghe wants money. He doesn't really care about the fame.

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