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i give many examples on why i believe floyd mayweather is a fantastic boxer, so i'm sure you're not referring to me when you post like you do, but to add my insight on your little thread anyway, i'll explain again like this. you have to be fool not to see floyd mayweather's skills in the ring. a lot of your argument goes back to your's and other people on here and you guys' belief that floyd mayweather never fought anybody elite, that's where your argument stems from, but oh boy are you so wrong with this one? allow me to school you just like floyd does his opponents.
when you talk about "boxers" and "fighters" you have to take into account every aspect of what makes both of those what they are. you have your sluggers who punch each other back and forth until one gives up. you have your fighters who are blood thirsty warriors who fight to the finish. all of that is very popular among fans, which is fighters will never be boxers to me, and why floyd mayweather will never be a "fighter" in that respect(the less you get hit, the longer you last in boxing). does that ring a bell?
boxing is an artform, and i know this because i know boxing very well. the thread starter makes an argument about how people can find floyd mayweather's skills great. well empardo, here's why. simply put, because they are great.
he has a great jab, and he times it very well. his jab was used more, earlier in his career, but he never forgot about it(carlos baldomir recently). floyd mayweather's best offense is his defensive counterpunching ability imo, which sets up the rest of his punches. what people seem not to understand is how important counterpunching is in regards to boxing, and floyd is a great counterpuncher. just watch the fights with n'dou, corley, and gatti, who all were considered bigger punchers than floyd. you have to have some type of skills against bigger punchers don't you? i think so. it sure is good to have defense against big punchers too isn't it. yeah it is. example-corrales, who was the bigger puncher against floyd too wasn't he, but floyd was the smarter boxer wasn't he? what should he have done, just slug it out? no, he's a boxer with great speed, great defense, great footwork, and amazing upperbody movement. this was all evidet against corrlaes, who imo never figured floyd out, and when corrales threw his powerful right hand, floyd countered him all night, with his quick right hand, and awesome body positioning. floyd has great footwork. this is no secret either. his footwork is timed well also. floyd likes to go right, right, left, left a lot, which confused his opponents a lot, because of his quick hands also. sometimes, floyd stands with his feet squared(meaning, not on an angle), and offsets his opponents when he throws his punch, whether a right hand or a left hand, and he throws either hand like a jab, and this is a very smart tactic used by floyd, because his opponent, while still on an angle, doesn't know which hand he will throw as his power punch hand, plus floyd hops up an ddown while doing this. he has more skill than you'll ever know empardo ******o. don't make posts stating your hatred like if it was a fact, because i will always upsatge you. anyway, let me continue.
now, we know about floyd's footwork, which is amazing, but what people tend to let go is floyd's quick upperbody movement which is a good barometer for counterpunching isn't it? i think it is. floyd mayweather against zab judah, who was as quick as floyd was, and a bigger puncher arguably, had tremendous upper body movement. when zab had the momentum in his corner, floyd capaitalized off of the rushing zab was doing. zab was in such a rush to knock floyd out, that all the little mistakes zab were doing, like leaving his body expose where one of his best power punches come from, and floyd was breaking him down with it, and his quick, upperbody movement showcased this. he boxed carefully, and little by little broke zab's body down. zab threw this vicious right hook to floyd's head, and floyd timed it perfect, and ducked under it, and hit zab with a great body shot to the rib cage/kidney area, and zab was hurt by it, because he backed up afterwards, and didn't throw too much afterwards either. what floyd did was capiatlize off of the energy the hook by zab took out of him, seeing how he put a lot of his body into the punch, and floyd knew exactly where to hit him, and it was effective. he continued to break down zab's body slowly all night, and he did foucs on the right side of zab's body where the hook was thrown from. this man, is craftsmansip at it's finest showcased by the pretty boy. he's so smart in there. he gets in this zone, and it's like he knows everything he has to do in the ring, and he knows what's going on outside the ring too, showing how obversant he is, and that takes skill, especially when you're fighting. he knew when to hit zab in the nose, which head zab's eyes blinking a lot, and he knew zab didn't fight good when he was backed into a corner which floyd threw some great puches when he backed him into the corner, and he knew how to frustrate zab, and make zab fight dumb(all this sounds like great skills to me). he took zab judah out of his zone, and zab is a dangerous fighter to anyone at 147.
let's see, what else? oh, okay, i'll end my argument with floyd's ability to thow effective combos, at almost any angle angle. floyd mayweather works hard to be flexible in the ring. he trains like a madman to accomplish this. when you see floyd jumping rope when he's training, he doesn't do your typical jumrope routine. he tap dances, he two steps, he does many dances, and people need to realize that he's not only showing off he getting his body prepared for combonations(yes, i spelled it the way i do) in the ring. floyd knows what muscles to work to throw these combos from angles, and he looks like he dodging punches when he throws them. let me explain a fight where he showcased this. against gatti, in the 2nd round, where he landed a swift combo, from floyd's left side. he threw a hook to the body and it looked as if his he was about to just fall over, but he was just flexible as hell. also, in round 6, after floyd threw and vicious combo to gatti's body and head, he threw 3 left hooks and jumped into the 3rd left hook landed on gatti. he jumped at an angle. i mean, he was just so smooth and collected when he threw them too, as if it was nothing to him, just easy work, which it was. the boy can box his ass off man. he skills are so natural looking. he's a polished boxer, who can attack you from all angles and from both stances also. he's a great southpaw boxer also when he turns southpaw.
so, now you see, floyd can do it all. i have his whole professional career on dvd, so i have watched his fights extensively, so i do know what i'm talking about. this thread is just another example of criticism, and it's funny, i had a premenition, this would happe, 1st, he gets criticized for his arrogance and ****y persona, then the level of his oppenents(which in turn is a spinoff of the criticism he gets from his arrogance, and just another exuse for biased hatred towards him), then he gets criticized for his dominating performances against his opposition(that's when all the nonsense comes into fold-with stuff like, he didn't knock him out like he said, all he did was potshot him, he never went blow for blow with him, his fights are boring), then people explain who he can't beat, who he avoids and ducks, who he can't knock out, who he is afraid of, and now his skill level is overrated to some of you people. you people make me laugh, because you guys must have little to no clue what boxing really is. floyd mayweather is the best example of natural boxing skill and wisdom today. compare him pernell all you want, he is way better than pernell was, much more natural looking in the ring. pernell was amazing, but he rarely recovered from the mistakes his opponents exposed from him, and floyd has been exposed just like every other fighter, yet, due to his skill lvel and sheer brilliance and bravado in the ring, he recovers well, and wins the fight, no matter how close it is(mayweather/castillo 1- so don't even try to make a point off of this fight, floyd won). this is some of why i feel floyd mayweather has tremendous skills in the place where it counts truly, the ring.
when you talk about "boxers" and "fighters" you have to take into account every aspect of what makes both of those what they are. you have your sluggers who punch each other back and forth until one gives up. you have your fighters who are blood thirsty warriors who fight to the finish. all of that is very popular among fans, which is fighters will never be boxers to me, and why floyd mayweather will never be a "fighter" in that respect(the less you get hit, the longer you last in boxing). does that ring a bell?
boxing is an artform, and i know this because i know boxing very well. the thread starter makes an argument about how people can find floyd mayweather's skills great. well empardo, here's why. simply put, because they are great.
he has a great jab, and he times it very well. his jab was used more, earlier in his career, but he never forgot about it(carlos baldomir recently). floyd mayweather's best offense is his defensive counterpunching ability imo, which sets up the rest of his punches. what people seem not to understand is how important counterpunching is in regards to boxing, and floyd is a great counterpuncher. just watch the fights with n'dou, corley, and gatti, who all were considered bigger punchers than floyd. you have to have some type of skills against bigger punchers don't you? i think so. it sure is good to have defense against big punchers too isn't it. yeah it is. example-corrales, who was the bigger puncher against floyd too wasn't he, but floyd was the smarter boxer wasn't he? what should he have done, just slug it out? no, he's a boxer with great speed, great defense, great footwork, and amazing upperbody movement. this was all evidet against corrlaes, who imo never figured floyd out, and when corrales threw his powerful right hand, floyd countered him all night, with his quick right hand, and awesome body positioning. floyd has great footwork. this is no secret either. his footwork is timed well also. floyd likes to go right, right, left, left a lot, which confused his opponents a lot, because of his quick hands also. sometimes, floyd stands with his feet squared(meaning, not on an angle), and offsets his opponents when he throws his punch, whether a right hand or a left hand, and he throws either hand like a jab, and this is a very smart tactic used by floyd, because his opponent, while still on an angle, doesn't know which hand he will throw as his power punch hand, plus floyd hops up an ddown while doing this. he has more skill than you'll ever know empardo ******o. don't make posts stating your hatred like if it was a fact, because i will always upsatge you. anyway, let me continue.
now, we know about floyd's footwork, which is amazing, but what people tend to let go is floyd's quick upperbody movement which is a good barometer for counterpunching isn't it? i think it is. floyd mayweather against zab judah, who was as quick as floyd was, and a bigger puncher arguably, had tremendous upper body movement. when zab had the momentum in his corner, floyd capaitalized off of the rushing zab was doing. zab was in such a rush to knock floyd out, that all the little mistakes zab were doing, like leaving his body expose where one of his best power punches come from, and floyd was breaking him down with it, and his quick, upperbody movement showcased this. he boxed carefully, and little by little broke zab's body down. zab threw this vicious right hook to floyd's head, and floyd timed it perfect, and ducked under it, and hit zab with a great body shot to the rib cage/kidney area, and zab was hurt by it, because he backed up afterwards, and didn't throw too much afterwards either. what floyd did was capiatlize off of the energy the hook by zab took out of him, seeing how he put a lot of his body into the punch, and floyd knew exactly where to hit him, and it was effective. he continued to break down zab's body slowly all night, and he did foucs on the right side of zab's body where the hook was thrown from. this man, is craftsmansip at it's finest showcased by the pretty boy. he's so smart in there. he gets in this zone, and it's like he knows everything he has to do in the ring, and he knows what's going on outside the ring too, showing how obversant he is, and that takes skill, especially when you're fighting. he knew when to hit zab in the nose, which head zab's eyes blinking a lot, and he knew zab didn't fight good when he was backed into a corner which floyd threw some great puches when he backed him into the corner, and he knew how to frustrate zab, and make zab fight dumb(all this sounds like great skills to me). he took zab judah out of his zone, and zab is a dangerous fighter to anyone at 147.
let's see, what else? oh, okay, i'll end my argument with floyd's ability to thow effective combos, at almost any angle angle. floyd mayweather works hard to be flexible in the ring. he trains like a madman to accomplish this. when you see floyd jumping rope when he's training, he doesn't do your typical jumrope routine. he tap dances, he two steps, he does many dances, and people need to realize that he's not only showing off he getting his body prepared for combonations(yes, i spelled it the way i do) in the ring. floyd knows what muscles to work to throw these combos from angles, and he looks like he dodging punches when he throws them. let me explain a fight where he showcased this. against gatti, in the 2nd round, where he landed a swift combo, from floyd's left side. he threw a hook to the body and it looked as if his he was about to just fall over, but he was just flexible as hell. also, in round 6, after floyd threw and vicious combo to gatti's body and head, he threw 3 left hooks and jumped into the 3rd left hook landed on gatti. he jumped at an angle. i mean, he was just so smooth and collected when he threw them too, as if it was nothing to him, just easy work, which it was. the boy can box his ass off man. he skills are so natural looking. he's a polished boxer, who can attack you from all angles and from both stances also. he's a great southpaw boxer also when he turns southpaw.
so, now you see, floyd can do it all. i have his whole professional career on dvd, so i have watched his fights extensively, so i do know what i'm talking about. this thread is just another example of criticism, and it's funny, i had a premenition, this would happe, 1st, he gets criticized for his arrogance and ****y persona, then the level of his oppenents(which in turn is a spinoff of the criticism he gets from his arrogance, and just another exuse for biased hatred towards him), then he gets criticized for his dominating performances against his opposition(that's when all the nonsense comes into fold-with stuff like, he didn't knock him out like he said, all he did was potshot him, he never went blow for blow with him, his fights are boring), then people explain who he can't beat, who he avoids and ducks, who he can't knock out, who he is afraid of, and now his skill level is overrated to some of you people. you people make me laugh, because you guys must have little to no clue what boxing really is. floyd mayweather is the best example of natural boxing skill and wisdom today. compare him pernell all you want, he is way better than pernell was, much more natural looking in the ring. pernell was amazing, but he rarely recovered from the mistakes his opponents exposed from him, and floyd has been exposed just like every other fighter, yet, due to his skill lvel and sheer brilliance and bravado in the ring, he recovers well, and wins the fight, no matter how close it is(mayweather/castillo 1- so don't even try to make a point off of this fight, floyd won). this is some of why i feel floyd mayweather has tremendous skills in the place where it counts truly, the ring.
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