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  • Run
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    #31
    Originally posted by $iN
    Wow, you're an idiot. Tsyzu is a power puncher in his natural weight class. It would be a disappointing performance for him if he didn't KO Judah. Mayweather was fighting Judah in his 4th weight class where his power is negligable and he's not a power puncher like Tsyzu anyway. Asking Floyd to KO Judah at welterweight is the equivalent of asking Tsyzu to outbox Judah over 12 rounds and win just about every round...
    Save the bull****.

    You're trying to equate KT's crushing 1 punch Knockout of Judah to a usual track meet of Floyd's where he runs like he's being chased. Floyd had no trouble in stopping Mitchell.....lol who you're so high on and that should be evidence of him carrying his power to 147 if he had any.

    Oh and I like the way you just twist everything around to fit your agenda.



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    • Mech.
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      #32
      Originally posted by RunW/Knives
      It doesn't mean anything.

      Junior Jones K Barrera TFO and if it werent for his corner....he might have died. Barrera schooled Morales' ass in the third fight, and I thought he deserved the nod in all three fights. What happened when Jones fought Morales?

      There's really nothing else that needs be said. Triangle logic doesn't work.
      of course you cant read too much into it,but are you telling me you never looked at fighter B and bassed on his past fights assumed he was going to get whooped by fighter A? of course you have,everybody does, that why theyre called upsets when **** dosent work out for fighter A.

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      • !! $iN
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        #33
        Originally posted by RunW/Knives
        It doesn't mean anything.

        Junior Jones K Barrera TFO and if it werent for his corner....he might have died. Barrera schooled Morales' ass in the third fight, and I thought he deserved the nod in all three fights. What happened when Jones fought Morales?

        There's really nothing else that needs be said. Triangle logic doesn't work.
        Since when did Junior Jones fight like Morales? Did Morales fight MAB right after Jones?

        Triangle logic works when similar styles are involved and when the fights Hatton within close proximity to one another.. Hatton and Mosley both had the same gameplan against Collazo and they fought him one right after the other, not like 4 years later in the case of MAB. They both used activity and some holding to beat him. Mosley just had an easier time because he's a superior fighter...

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        • !! $iN
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          #34
          Originally posted by RunW/Knives
          Save the bull****.

          You're trying to equate KT's crushing 1 punch Knockout of Judah to a usual track meet of Floyd's where he runs like he's being chased. Floyd had no trouble in stopping Mitchell.....lol who you're so high on and that should be evidence of him carrying his power to 147 if he had any.

          Oh and I like the way you just twist everything around to fit your agenda.
          I don't need to twist anything. You are comparing the power of a KO artist to a pure boxer 17 pounds above his best weight. That is ridiculous. Mayweather KOing Mitchell just shows how weak that guy's chin is.

          If KOs are your standard for greatness, then Valero is the best fighter in the world today. What's more impressive than KOing all of your opponents with all but 2 getting KOed in the first round?

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            #35
            Originally posted by $iN
            Since when did Junior Jones fight like Morales? Did Morales fight MAB right after Jones?

            Triangle logic works when similar styles are involved and when the fights Hatton within close proximity to one another.. Hatton and Mosley both had the same gameplan against Collazo and they fought him one right after the other, not like 4 years later in the case of MAB. They both used activity and some holding to beat him. Mosley just had an easier time because he's a superior fighter...
            Morales knocked Jones out a little over 1 year after Jones stopped Barrera.

            The timeline is why I use that example.



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              #36
              Originally posted by Mech.
              of course you cant read too much into it,but are you telling me you never looked at fighter B and bassed on his past fights assumed he was going to get whooped by fighter A? of course you have,everybody does, that why theyre called upsets when **** dosent work out for fighter A.
              I don't do that....unless there's a stylistic implication.

              For instance.....I saw what Oscar did to Tito in their fight.....and I told myself I was 100% positive Wright would re enact that to even a further degree, by tagging Trinidad with shots from the outside where he's vulnerable. NOT because of 1 guy's performance or another's spectacular punch.



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              • The Wire
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                #37
                Originally posted by Left2body
                Yes, we can differentiate but your speaking from ignorance because I dont suffer from altzeimers I remember a thread started by The Wire in which took place before the Mosley fight in which he and other Hatton fans assert that if Collazo defeats Mosley he should be given more credit.

                Now we get this thread, thats what I call hypocrsy.
                lol you ****ing must suffer from alzheimers or some kind of insane **** cos i never started a thread like that old boy.

                And people saying Tszyu was shot is bull****. The way he destroyed Sharmba Mitchell proved that. And whoever said that Tszyu knocking Judah out in two rounds wasnt a better win than Floyd winning eight out of twelve rounds against them is crazy.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by $iN
                  For one, Tsyzu was humiliated in the first round by Judah. In no round did Floyd look like he didn't belong in the same ring as Judah, unlike Tsyzu.

                  Secondly, one of the scores for PBF-Judah was 119-109 and the others were almost as lopsided. That is a dominating performance. If Floyd had the same power at 147 that he did at 130, Judah would have gotten KTFO.

                  Third, PBF and Tsyzu have completely different styles. They each destroyed Judah in their own way.

                  Mosley and Hatton have more similar styles in that they try to win with activity and people were saying Mosley was holding just as much as Hatton does. Also, Mosley and Hatton fought Collazo back-to-back but there was 4-5 years between Judah's fights against Tsyzu and PBF and they happened at different weight classes.

                  Stop trying to be silly and turn this around. Hatton is a joke and Mosley's domination of Collazo showed how overrated Hatton is...
                  Oh C'mon. This is the biggest crap I have ever read. Tszyu was hit with some big shots and closed the gap EARLY in the 2nd round (just like he always does). He knocked out Judah with a single right hand. What more do you want? It was a devestating performance.

                  And guess what Junior, your scores are complete ****. Remember the point deduction? Judah was winning 3-1 in the first 4 rounds, and dominated Mayweather in the 4th round. It can be argued that Mayweather gave away the last 2 rounds. That is not a domination by any stretch.

                  You are full of **** as usual.

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                  • adamk1304
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by $iN
                    Since when did Junior Jones fight like Morales? Did Morales fight MAB right after Jones?

                    Triangle logic works when similar styles are involved and when the fights Hatton within close proximity to one another.. Hatton and Mosley both had the same gameplan against Collazo and they fought him one right after the other, not like 4 years later in the case of MAB. They both used activity and some holding to beat him. Mosley just had an easier time because he's a superior fighter...
                    Mosley and hatton are complete opposites in terms of fighting style.

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                    • BigCol
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by $iN
                      Since when did Junior Jones fight like Morales? Did Morales fight MAB right after Jones?

                      Triangle logic works when similar styles are involved and when the fights Hatton within close proximity to one another.. Hatton and Mosley both had the same gameplan against Collazo and they fought him one right after the other, not like 4 years later in the case of MAB. They both used activity and some holding to beat him. Mosley just had an easier time because he's a superior fighter...
                      You are talking **** as usual.

                      You are forgetting the different circumstances when you use this triangular logic. All things equal - yeah sometimes it does work but you are forgetting that styles make fights. Triangular logic is for nothing but fanboys...

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