If Shane's easy win over Collazo makes Hatton a poorer fighter then....

[The Wire]

Then Floyd's worse. This is because Ricky beat Tszyu, who flattened Zab in two rounds. Zab gave Floyd a tough fight for four rounds, and certainly a tougher fight than he gave Tszyu. So by that reckoning Ricky is better than Floyd?!?

Of course, this isn't true. But my point is this - we shouldnt read too much into the Collazo fights.

[Exige Jr]

I thought we established that Triangular logic doesnt work, in 2005. Maybe even before... as soon as Hatton fights triangular logic... all the rage!

[Left2body]

Then Floyd's worse. This is because Ricky beat Tszyu, who flattened Zab in two rounds. Zab gave Floyd a tough fight for four rounds, and certainly a tougher fight than he gave Tszyu. So by that reckoning Ricky is better than Floyd?!?

Of course, this isn't true. But my point is this - we shouldnt read too much into the Collazo fights.

See I agree with most triangular logic being given too much importance especially when the fighters have differing styles. However, once again a Hatton fan is showing tremendous hypocrsy. Hatton fans previously said that Hatton would beat PBF because of the sucess that Castillo had against him and they said Hatton was a better fighter.

Then THE WIRE and other Hatton fans were claiming that when/if Collazo beats Mosley that it would mean more credit for Hatton. Now you Hatton guys want it both ways since Collazo lost handedly you want to totally forget it but if Collazo had won you've already shown that you wanted and would've trumpeted for more credit for Hatton.

[Brother Blues]

Left2body,I believe you just explained why there is so much hate on this forum for Hatton...his fans.

[kayjay]

Then Floyd's worse. This is because Ricky beat Tszyu, who flattened Zab in two rounds. Zab gave Floyd a tough fight for four rounds, and certainly a tougher fight than he gave Tszyu. So by that reckoning Ricky is better than Floyd?!?

Of course, this isn't true. But my point is this - we shouldnt read too much into the Collazo fights.

See Wire/myunksafied, you started a thread with a hypothetical. It requires a minimal of degree of intelligence to understand hypothetical claims, and to not mistake the terms of the hypothesis for actual assertions. You were out of luck with this crew.

But fair point, if that (traingular) logic were valid, as you say, in instance A, the we should likely consider it valid in instance B. But the logic doesn't work . . . .

A simple abstraction that our NSB residents can't make.

[Left2body]

See Wire/myunksafied, you started a thread with a hypothetical. It requires a minimal of degree of intelligence to understand hypothetical claims, and to not mistake the terms of the hypothesis for actual assertions. You were out of luck with this crew.

But fair point, if that (traingular) logic were valid, as you say, in instance A, the we should likely consider it valid in instance B. But the logic doesn't work . . . .

A simple abstraction that our NSB residents can't make.

Yes, we can differentiate but your speaking from ignorance because I dont suffer from altzeimers I remember a thread started by The Wire in which took place before the Mosley fight in which he and other Hatton fans assert that if Collazo defeats Mosley he should be given more credit.

Now we get this thread, thats what I call hypocrsy.

[Guest]

Then Floyd's worse. This is because Ricky beat Tszyu, who flattened Zab in two rounds. Zab gave Floyd a tough fight for four rounds, and certainly a tougher fight than he gave Tszyu. So by that reckoning Ricky is better than Floyd?!?

Of course, this isn't true. But my point is this - we shouldnt read too much into the Collazo fights.

For one, Tsyzu was humiliated in the first round by Judah. In no round did Floyd look like he didn't belong in the same ring as Judah, unlike Tsyzu.

Secondly, one of the scores for PBF-Judah was 119-109 and the others were almost as lopsided. That is a dominating performance. If Floyd had the same power at 147 that he did at 130, Judah would have gotten KTFO.

Third, PBF and Tsyzu have completely different styles. They each destroyed Judah in their own way.

Mosley and Hatton have more similar styles in that they try to win with activity and people were saying Mosley was holding just as much as Hatton does. Also, Mosley and Hatton fought Collazo back-to-back but there was 4-5 years between Judah's fights against Tsyzu and PBF and they happened at different weight classes.

Stop trying to be silly and turn this around. Hatton is a joke and Mosley's domination of Collazo showed how overrated Hatton is...

[.Mik.]

Stop trying to be silly and turn this around. Hatton is a joke and Mosley's domination of Collazo showed how overrated Hatton is...

Hear that guys? Hatton is a joke...no particular reason why. Just an undefeated champion joke.

Personally, if I went my whole career never losing, winning all my tough fights by two or three rounds and winning multiple titles at multiple weights...I'd be happy to be such a joke.

[Guest]

Hear that guys? Hatton is a joke...no particular reason why. Just an undefeated champion joke.

Personally, if I went my whole career never losing, winning all my tough fights by two or three rounds and winning multiple titles at multiple weights...I'd be happy to be such a joke.

He's a joke because his recorded is padded from fighting only handpicked opponents and he's supposed to be a P4P level fighter, but he struggles with average fighters. He is a solid fighter, but he is way overrated by the UK fans...

[.Mik.]

He's a joke because his recorded is padded from fighting only handpicked opponents and he's supposed to be a P4P level fighter, but he struggles with average fighters. He is a solid fighter, but he is way overrated by the UK fans...

Not overrated. He MAY be the best P4P fighter in the world. He certainly beat one who is. He probably isnt, but that is an unknown quantity until he is defeated. Until he loses a fight, there is no fighter (being realistic, at or around his weight level) who can say with 100% certainty that they definitely WOULD beat him. Its that simple. You may not like it and you may not like him, but that is a fact. Multi-weight, multi-champion, undefeated, high P4P scalp. Cant argue with them, you can debate his future credentials, but nobody can say for sure.