street fight vs. boxing

[hemichromis]

we can argue it back and forth and wont convince either one but the fact is ray mercer fought in a K1 fight with a Japanese fighter much smaller than him and lost. he got his leg kicked the heck out of him. Mercer also lost to another K1 fighter by KO. Also i think u give too much credit to a boxer's ability to defense a take down. Most of the time, they practically have no take down defense and are sitting ducks on the ground.

K1 fighters train much like boxers do so i stand by what i said. i was comparing boxers with the average martial artist

of course a boxer is gonna lose at mma, a mmaist would also lose at boxing!

[outofit]

boxing teaches discipline better than any other martial art. As an example, mike Tyson says, "Every ones got a plan till they get punched in the face." Boxing teaches you to discipline your self in the face of massive punishment, it teaches you to step out of your natural tendencies and fight the way you're going to have to fight in order to win, it is the beauty of boxing. It is precisely the point of the strict rules laid out in boxing that make it so wonderfull. It is not a ground chess match, it is not a choreographed Flying kick exhibition, what it is is getting punched. In a street fight a jujitsu guy may be able to tangle you up and snap your arm but it is the training of boxing that gives a person the necessary skills like discipline and perseverance in the face of danger that is far more important. I know i left alot of important subjects out but i could go on forever. It's all science, but boxing is the sweet science.

[leff]

A "boxer" by nature is limited by the title: boxer, which in effect limits him to all the rules of the game, which, if he/she has been training in it for a long while, is only going to fight a certain way and expecting a certain response and result from his/her opponent.

A streetfight, by nature, is dynamic and unpredictable, therefore no rules or agreements apply, and anything and everything can be utilised to defend oneself, i.e: one's body parts and/or objects.

Oh, and there are no judges or referees to stop the fight if someone gets "hit below the belt".

It is very difficult to end a fight with one punch. Much less, if one is not physically fit or conditioned to last more than a few minutes engaged in fighting.

Too many variables come into play in a street fight, especially when one doesn't know who one is fighting or the environment where the fight just so happens to take place. Fighting in the squared circle provides a sense of security when the people involved know what to expect.

A person who can "fight" should include and make use of all the tools of fighting available, not just throwing the hands as in boxing.

Of course, one can master the boxing basics and be successful in many fights.

The question then becomes are you fighting for sport, for fun, or to protect your own life and those you love?

Your answer to that question is very critical and extremely important when choosing to fight in any way.

The mixed martial arts have made a major contribution to the "sport" of fighting by making us aware that many people who adapt certain "styles" are in fact limited to that "style" or form of fighting.

As you may guess, this sounds like a reference to the fighting philosophy of Bruce Lee, someone who has influenced myself and many around the world in the observation of hand to hand combat.

Lee wanted people to observe and consider that fighting a certain way and naming that way of fighting, limits the person using that form of fighting and virtually puts him/her in a box, so to speak.

The Gracie Jiu jitsu family just made the world more aware of this on a larger scale and proved that certain "styles" are limited in successful execution when it comes to fighting in a sport environment.

Boxing, per say, is a very popular form of entertainment, exercise, and even a career for many who choose to participate in it.

Just keep in mind that limitations apply when adapting any style of fighting.

Ultimately, the best way to know if boxing or any other style works for you, is to simply fight others who use a different style or styles. This way, you would be applying a Bruce Lee methodolgy of: Find your own truth in combat.

you make a lot off sense allthough you state the obius

[hemichromis]

9 times out of 10 the guy who lands the first good punch ends up victorious

[squealpiggy]

A "boxer" by nature is limited by the title: boxer, which in effect limits him to all the rules of the game, which, if he/she has been training in it for a long while, is only going to fight a certain way and expecting a certain response and result from his/her opponent.

A boxer is by definition a person who practises and competes in the sport known as boxing. IN a streetfight they no more have to adhere to the rules and regulations of boxing than anyone else, but they have a clear advantage over the "average" and most non full-contact martial artists in that they are used to hitting and being hit and will almost certainly have better conditioning and technique.

If a linebacker gets into a fight are they bound by the rules and regulations of football? Of course not, and neither is the boxer. Real life isn't a video game.

[Kayo]

Boxers are well equipped for street fighting...i think its ****** that theirs the assumption that in a street fight as soon as it got close and grappling is involved that a boxer completely folds even if it is against someone with no training whatsoever

[brownpimp88]

MMA is basically street fighting but without low blows and weapons. An mma fight is 10x closer to real fight than a boxing match. Anyone that disagrees knows nothing.

[Fighting Cougar]

mauy thai defeats boxing, then again i'm on a ****in boxing forum so it will be hard for me to convince you guys.

I would say it depends on who the boxer and the kickboxer are.

[Gio]

MMA is basically street fighting but without low blows and weapons. .

last time i checked, your homies couldnt jump in and sucker punch the other guy.

You dont know **** about MMA if you think its basically a street fight.

[brownpimp88]

last time i checked, your homies couldnt jump in and sucker punch the other guy.

You dont know **** about MMA if you think its basically a street fight.

when we talk about how streetfight, i'm assuming its going to be 1 on 1. Otherwise its pointless to discuss this if people are gonna jump in.