Can Barrera beat a master boxer?

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  • realheavyhands
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    #31
    Originally posted by Mishra100
    Of course Barrera can beat a person who boxes better than him or someone who has a punchers chance... I think Barrera is so skilled that no matter who he is in the ring with, he will give them hell.
    he means what junior jones did to him 2 times that was the best boxer barerra fought and he beat berrera twice out of only 4 losses

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      #32
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      Junior Jones was a slick boxer who presented Barrera with a lot of problems. He had a damned good right hand and he was consistently beating Barrera to the punch. I honestly feel like the thing that bothers Barrera is ENERGY!

      Look at his bad losses to Pacquiao and Jones. Both of those guys came into those respective fights with a ton of energy and they were both very sharp. They would beat Barrera to the punch and always tried to end an exchange with him. The Juarez fights are a good example too. In the first fight...Rocky was live and came in with a full head of steam. He had Marco in bad shape the entire second half of that fight. In the second fight he was flat and looked uninterested...which is why Barrera slapped him around.

      this is why I don't think any version of Barrera would have beaten any version of Pacquiao. I also think Marco would struggle BADLY with a fighter like Jesus Chavez. Chavez is a guy who is always going 100 miles per hour, always pressuring and looking to crack you.
      he doesnt like when a guy has more energy then him .. i dont think he was ready for pacqioua tho

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      • JOM'S
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        #33
        this will be a really interesting fight ... It could be a boxing match or a brawl against JMM ... hope we get a doze of both

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        • .::|ULTIMATE|::.
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          #34
          That question wont be answered against Marquez though Marquez is a great boxer he is old and has clearly lost a step.

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          • ferocity
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            #35
            Originally posted by eazy_mas
            Johhy Tapia, Pac or even penden and pauli ayalie
            No!

            I can't belive nobody remembers....

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            • brently1979
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              #36
              Barrera is a master boxer.

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                #37
                Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                That question wont be answered against Marquez though Marquez is a great boxer he is old and has clearly lost a step.
                i think it will be answered in away cuz MAB also have loss a step or 2 ...

                the only guy I can think of now at 130 who can closely fit the master boxer category is MAB himself and Guzman

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                • psychopath
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                  #38
                  Can Barrera beat a master boxer?
                  I think no. Especially at this stage of his career? MAB has slowed down tremendously since I saw him fight Pacquiao.

                  But as they say, "don't count the heart of a champion out". MAB might suprise a lot of people (including me).

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                  • amaru
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    No!

                    I can't belive nobody remembers....
                    barreras my favourite fighter of all time so i hope i get this right... lol

                    was it a boxer named valbuena?? if i remember although barrera got the win against him, it was not an easy fight at all, it was his first fight after his first epic battle with erik morales in 2000, and even though i thought barrera won the fight, he was havin trouble with the way valbuena was boxing him.

                    also for the people sayin that junior jones had more energy than barrera and he was always beating him to the punch, etc, in the first fight that maybe true, although barrera was winning on the scorecards before he got KO'd, plus in their 2nd fight, barrera could easily have won that fight, however he got a point taken away from him in the late rounds and i think he actualy did enough to pull out a decision against junior jones.

                    regarding pacquiao, i honestly think when barrera steps in the ring against him it will be a MUCH more competitive fight, and a fight i think he can win, you learn a lot more from a defeat rather than a win, and barrera will come in 100% focused with a proper training camp and no distractions under his belt. he has the tools to beat pacman and give him a good fight, he will be more prepared this time and has built him self up boxing wise wise and has got his confidence back with his fights after pacman, had he got in the ring with pacman again straight after the 11 round beating, i think he might have lost that again, that must have been a huge physical and physcological blow that barrera had to overcome, and although it has been 3-4 years he needed to do it to get his confidence back. one thing i will never do is underestimate barrera or count him out of a fight, especially when he is an underdog. people though he would lose to morales the first time (he did to the judges..lol) buhe won that fight in may peoples eyes, peopel thoguht he would get blown away by the power of naseem hamed, he boxed him silly and again, people thought he would lose to morales in heir 3rd fight and he won that, people even thought he would lose to rocky juarez in their 2nd fight and barrera boxed him silly.

                    with marquez, it hink it will be an excellent fight with brawling and boxing, with barrera winning a UD, marquez is a good boxer and will definatley have his moments, i just think barrera will be the more smarter boxer.

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                    • ferocity
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by amaru
                      barreras my favourite fighter of all time so i hope i get this right... lol

                      was it a boxer named valbuena?? if i remember although barrera got the win against him, it was not an easy fight at all, it was his first fight after his first epic battle with erik morales in 2000, and even though i thought barrera won the fight, he was havin trouble with the way valbuena was boxing him.

                      also for the people sayin that junior jones had more energy than barrera and he was always beating him to the punch, etc, in the first fight that maybe true, although barrera was winning on the scorecards before he got KO'd, plus in their 2nd fight, barrera could easily have won that fight, however he got a point taken away from him in the late rounds and i think he actualy did enough to pull out a decision against junior jones.

                      regarding pacquiao, i honestly think when barrera steps in the ring against him it will be a MUCH more competitive fight, and a fight i think he can win, you learn a lot more from a defeat rather than a win, and barrera will come in 100% focused with a proper training camp and no distractions under his belt. he has the tools to beat pacman and give him a good fight, he will be more prepared this time and has built him self up boxing wise wise and has got his confidence back with his fights after pacman, had he got in the ring with pacman again straight after the 11 round beating, i think he might have lost that again, that must have been a huge physical and physcological blow that barrera had to overcome, and although it has been 3-4 years he needed to do it to get his confidence back. one thing i will never do is underestimate barrera or count him out of a fight, especially when he is an underdog. people though he would lose to morales the first time (he did to the judges..lol) buhe won that fight in may peoples eyes, peopel thoguht he would get blown away by the power of naseem hamed, he boxed him silly and again, people thought he would lose to morales in heir 3rd fight and he won that, people even thought he would lose to rocky juarez in their 2nd fight and barrera boxed him silly.

                      with marquez, it hink it will be an excellent fight with brawling and boxing, with barrera winning a UD, marquez is a good boxer and will definatley have his moments, i just think barrera will be the more smarter boxer.

                      Bingo!

                      Valbueno gave Barrera hell, for sure Barrera took Balbueno lightly this guy was a unknown fighter coming in and troubled Barrera for 12 rounds, Barrera didn't look good at all in this fight probably one of the only times that i recall when watching a Barrera fight thinking Barrera is an old fighter. But he showed me and keep on winning.

                      Barrera came first, Marquez second and Morales third. And yet Barrera is still on the top of the boxing world and is still around. Much credit for Barrera though i rooted against him against Juarez. I hope now that Juarez is on Barreras team, maybe Barrera can help Rocky become a better fighter by talking with him and maybe showing him a few moves.

                      I was thinking that even though Barrera has been in more wars he still has the faster hands then Marquez. Both are good counter punchers Marquez better but I think Barreras ability to throw in combinations and at a spilt second will make the difference. But i have no doubt this will be a war. No way Marquez would allow Barrera to try and box him or to try and just walk all over him, both are battle tested and both want to shine.

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