why cant the boxers now hang with the ones from the past?

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  • brownpimp88
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    #41
    Originally posted by butterfly1964
    I'm sorry, but I would have to agree with Kid Achilles on this one. Lennox is big, but he has a bad chin and is much slower than Dempsey. Dempsey's punches would have more of an effect on Lewis than Lewis' punches would on Dempsey. I would say Jack wins in under 8 rounds.
    Who did dempsey beat, sharkey, firpo and willard, lol. Lennox would jab him and tko his ass in the later rounds.

    LMAO at people saying roy is overrated cuz he lost a couple of fights out of his prime. Roy is far more skilled than dempsey, better head movement and combos. Why do i get the feeling that all these dempsey nuthuggers are white.

    Dempsey is one of the most overrated boxers of all times. The heavyweights he beat were unskilled goofs, his record is padded with bums that have horrible records. He never beat a great heavyweight, his best wins are sadly against light heavyweights and he got outboxed by tunney twice. Not to mention that he never fought black guys cuz his promoter wouldnt allow it.

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    • phallus
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      #42
      the new guys ( today ) are " great athletes" who duck everybody and barely fight 2 or 3 times a year. the champs of the past were fighting 2 or 3 times a month

      the old guys are tougher and had more heart

      old school = always better than new school

      jack dempsey would knock out any of today's hw bums

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      • brownpimp88
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        #43
        Originally posted by dr filth
        the new guys ( today ) are " great athletes" who duck everybody and barely fight 2 or 3 times a year. the champs of the past were fighting 2 or 3 times a month

        the old guys are tougher and had more heart

        old school = always better than new school

        jack dempsey would knock out any of today's hw bums
        If there was alot of money offered in those days, they would fight less. Gavilan and ray robinson ended up broke while guys like leonard ended up with millions.

        You said lennox barely makes ur top 20, so to me ur opinion is a joke.

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          #44
          Originally posted by brownpimp88
          If there was alot of money offered in those days, they would fight less. Gavilan and ray robinson ended up broke while guys like leonard ended up with millions.

          You said lennox barely makes ur top 20, so to me ur opinion is a joke.
          same to u, your OPINION doesn't mean **** to me either

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          • Kid Achilles
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            #45
            How can you compare Dempsey to Roy? Dempsey was a natural 200 lber with an iron chin trained down to 185 whereas Roy was a natural 160 lber who used weights to bulk up. The difference in the quality of their chins and bone structures is ridiculous.

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            • butterfly1964
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              #46
              Originally posted by brownpimp88
              Who did dempsey beat, sharkey, firpo and willard, lol. Lennox would jab him and tko his ass in the later rounds.

              LMAO at people saying roy is overrated cuz he lost a couple of fights out of his prime. Roy is far more skilled than dempsey, better head movement and combos. Why do i get the feeling that all these dempsey nuthuggers are white.

              Dempsey is one of the most overrated boxers of all times. The heavyweights he beat were unskilled goofs, his record is padded with bums that have horrible records. He never beat a great heavyweight, his best wins are sadly against light heavyweights and he got outboxed by tunney twice. Not to mention that he never fought black guys cuz his promoter wouldnt allow it.
              Who did Lewis beat besides a washed up Tyson, a past prime Holy, and a completely shot Tony Tucker?

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              • brownpimp88
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                #47
                Originally posted by butterfly1964
                Who did Lewis beat besides a washed up Tyson, a past prime Holy, and a completely shot Tony Tucker?
                Holyfield was the linear champ at the time and lewis has beat 23 ranked contenders throughout his career. I'm positve klitchko and tua would beat firpo and untalented douche like willard.

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                • Kid Achilles
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                  #48
                  Willard was talented for sure, he just had a late start in boxing. Firpo is just the sort of awkward, aggressive, hard hitting opponent with a ton of balls that I'd be afraid of Wlad taking on, though I do think Tua smashes the Wild Bull of the Pampas.

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                  • brownpimp88
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                    Willard was talented for sure, he just had a late start in boxing. Firpo is just the sort of awkward, aggressive, hard hitting opponent with a ton of balls that I'd be afraid of Wlad taking on, though I do think Tua smashes the Wild Bull of the Pampas.
                    Dempsey is important to boxing history cuz he was thier version of babe ruth, i get it. However, as a boxer he is vastly overrated.

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                    • Kid Achilles
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                      #50
                      No, he wasn't.

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