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  • ferocity
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    #11
    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
    Thanks alot, I'm just stating the obvious. I admit that I was a former detractor of Cotto, but after seeing how brilliant his game is coming together at 147, I just have to say, if you can't beat them, join them.

    Margarito has power yeah, but, but nothing.
    ....but, but nothing
    You'll be licking Margaritos balls if he ever get a chance at Cotto.

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    • Mr. Ryan
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      #12
      Originally posted by Abe Attell
      Cotto has shown in the past he can be hurt, and because of his style of fight, can be tagged with the uppercut, which is very possible from a tall fighter like Margarito.

      but that said, with Cotto's brutal body punching, Margarito's frame looking like he should be fighting at a higher weight, even with his stamina looking great, I really think Cotto could wear down Margarito, but we will see.

      I also wonder if Margarito might in fact be able to hurt Cotto to the body
      If Margarito throws them wide body shots, he's going to catch left hook counters to the chin. Honestly put, I see this fight as a terrible mismatch.

      I have a feeling that with Cotto at his mre comfortable weight, he will take punches much better.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
        Margarito's 'pray and punch' haymakers are anything but praying and hoping. They have worked for him for many years and it's a good strategy if you have the stamina to do it. Margarito is not Quintanna. There is a reason Carlos fights the way he fights and Tony fights the way he fights. Tony has had success with it.

        Margarito's size, chin, workrate, and stamina spell problems for Cotto. Anyone who talks of Tony as if he is of little threat to Cotto clearly is missing the big picture.
        It works yea it does.. See how it didn't work for Tony when he fought Clottey? Im pretty sure Cotto would have KO'ed Tony yesterday. Tony could win don't get me wrong, but those looping punches will get him countered all day. We talking about the Margarito we seen yesterday. Not the Margarito that KO'ed Gomez in one round or KO'ed Hercules kevelos or KO'ed Cintron. Put Quintana or Collazo in with Tony i bet he would get outboxed and stunned a couple of times. Tony has stamina but once those body shots kick in he ain't gonna have to much energy.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Undefeated
          It works yea it does.. See how it didn't work for Tony when he fought Clottey? Im pretty sure Cotto would have KO'ed Tony yesterday. Tony could win don't get me wrong, but those looping punches will get him countered all day. We talking about the Margarito we seen yesterday. Not the Margarito that KO'ed Gomez in one round or KO'ed Hercules kevelos or KO'ed Cintron. Put Quintana or Collazo in with Tony i bet he would get outboxed and stunned a couple of times. Tony has stamina but once those body shots kick in he ain't gonna have to much energy.
          It's all the body shots, Margarito has never been in with someone like Cotto. Cotto is not Kyvelos, is not Gomez, and Margarito will find out. Im not even hating, I'm being blunt in laying out my assessment. I think this would be a terrible mismatch at 147. Nobody has ever worked Margarito's body yet.

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          • Abe Attell
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            #15
            Originally posted by Asian Sensation
            If Margarito throws them wide body shots, he's going to catch left hook counters to the chin. Honestly put, I see this fight as a terrible mismatch.

            I have a feeling that with Cotto at his mre comfortable weight, he will take punches much better.

            that's true, but Cotto has to be careful if Margarito is throwing those "wide body punches" in a combination...if it is just one shot, then Cotto will be the man ahead, but when a fighter is putting punches together, Cotto can get in trouble...Speed will also be the factor in this fight, Cotto has the advantage.

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            • Super_Lightweight
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              #16
              It works yea it does.. See how it didn't work for Tony when he fought Clottey? Im pretty sure Cotto would have KO'ed Tony yesterday.
              He got the win. Probably broke Clottey's hand with that style. Clottey was undefeated before that fight, except for a DQ. So I guess you are wrong. It did work, but not as well as usual.

              Cotto is not Clottey. Again, how many times does it have to be said that styles make fights. Cotto gets hit. Margarito throws a lot. Cotto will get hurt. It's just a matter of time against someone like Margarito. And when the bombs fly, who is going to get the better of it? Cotto because of his skills, or Margarito because of his workrate and superior chin?

              It's not as if Cotto has some cakewalk against Margarito were they to fight. I feel pretty bad for any Cotto fan who feels otherwise. It would be a tough fight either way.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                Is that Cotto is too skilled a fighter for the crude Margarito. Honestly, does Margarito not have the perfect frame for a Cotto masterpiece? Tall, long torsoed and a catcher, Cotto would tear him apart. I like Cotto at his new weight, he has the strength now to be the fluid power puncher he can be. If I'm Bob Arum, I keep Margarito as far away from Cotto as possible.

                If they go at it and Margarito catches them rib shots and is dismantled in 7 like I think, there is no money in any Margarito bout again.
                The money involved in a Margrito bout is waaaaaaaaaaaaay to large to turn down u know?

                Would showtime make that baby a PPV?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kfootball15
                  The money involved in a Margrito bout is waaaaaaaaaaaaay to large to turn down u know?

                  Would showtime make that baby a PPV?
                  I'm saying that after a Cotto fight, the mystique of Margarito would vanish and there would be no big money for him after that.

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                  • ferocity
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                    He got the win. Probably broke Clottey's hand with that style. Clottey was undefeated before that fight, except for a DQ. So I guess you are wrong. It did work, but not as well as usual.

                    Cotto is not Clottey. Again, how many times does it have to be said that styles make fights. Cotto gets hit. Margarito throws a lot. Cotto will get hurt. It's just a matter of time against someone like Margarito. And when the bombs fly, who is going to get the better of it? Cotto because of his skills, or Margarito because of his workrate and superior chin?

                    It's not as if Cotto has some cakewalk against Margarito were they to fight. I feel pretty bad for any Cotto fan who feels otherwise. It would be a tough fight either way.

                    This is the only post i respect in this thread, you unlike the others aren't fooled by the Cotto fight. I think it'll be a tough fight for both, but i think Margarito would be too much for Cotto, but with the confidence im reading from other people i hope Arum makes this fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                      He got the win. Probably broke Clottey's hand with that style. Clottey was undefeated before that fight, except for a DQ. So I guess you are wrong. It did work, but not as well as usual.

                      Cotto is not Clottey. Again, how many times does it have to be said that styles make fights. Cotto gets hit. Margarito throws a lot. Cotto will get hurt. It's just a matter of time against someone like Margarito. And when the bombs fly, who is going to get the better of it? Cotto because of his skills, or Margarito because of his workrate and superior chin?

                      It's not as if Cotto has some cakewalk against Margarito were they to fight. I feel pretty bad for any Cotto fan who feels otherwise. It would be a tough fight either way.
                      I knew something was going to happen in round 5. Clottey like a **** taking punishment while he could've been moving while making Margarito miss. So that's it? Tony throws alot of punches and it's light out for Cotto? Cotto doesn't land no body shots or counters? Cotto is fast he has the advantage. Tony has a chin ok. Who has he faced that is so strong? Has the man ever been hurt? Im not to up on his career so update me if im wrong. Cotto took some nice shots from Quintana being a natural 147 pounder. Also didn't get outboxed like some people thought he would. Im not saying it's going to be a cakewalk, but from what i seen yesterday Tony would have got countered all day by Cotto. Tony got the decision because of the fact that Clottey broke his hands. Did you not see the openings this man gave Clottey? And im really sure that Cotto will not be infront of Tony like Clottey did. tough fight it will be, but i would put my money on Cotto. Before i would have went with Tony but from what i've seen yesterday was exposure. Cotto has a chance.

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