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all you have to do is look at the NBA to see that athletes are only getting better these days. of course boxing is a lot about discipline, I'll give you that, which is something we've certainly lost. the only disciplined fighters I think even worthy of that adjective are Mayweather and Hopkins.
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i think there is less talent today in boxing because talented athletes can make easier money playing football, and other big money sports. i remember reading an article that suggested " if joe louis were young today, he'd be in the NFL not boxing "
also, though, today's fighters are ******* compared to the old guys, think about how tough dempsey's life was before he became champ, or jack johnson's. today nobody trains as hard as jim jefferies or marcianoComment
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Dr. filth you are spot on. All the other sports have gotten better because there is interest. No one but the diehards like us care about boxing anymore, and the effect is a sport with relatively few participants compared to previous years.Comment
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Kid Achilles you got it all wrong. It's the other way around. Modern fighters are better than the past ones. Today's fighters have awsome training conditions which makes them stronger and improve more rapidly. Past fighters fought because they had to and they may seem all good because of all the bull**** stories you people hear about them. Crap like running barefoot in the snow and training in natural places... kind of a dumb example but you get the idea. Back then they didn't have fighters as physically big as today. Look at freaking Valuev and the Klits, Lewis... They're monsters... They could bully around the past heavyweights but it's so hard to believe because most boxing fans believe that the past fighters had god-like skills. Yea they had great skills but the phyisical evolution of these fighters changes the nature of the sport... Nowday's at least in the HW it's all about strength.. Valuev doesn't have any great skill but because of his size he's a top-ranked fighter... Back then boxers relied a lot more on skill then they do now which is why they might seem better. It's almost the same with everything else, as time goes by pretty much everything improves, except wine...Comment
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I subscribe to that mindset as well. I think though the heavyweight division is weak now, we just had Big Lennox a few years back, who I firmly believe could contend with any of those older era heavyweights based on his size and how he used it.Comment
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Sure they did...There's always been the giant heavyweights on the scene with names like Victor Campolo, Ray Impellitiere, Ben Moroz (to name only a few), who were all at least as big as the Klitschkos, if not slightly more so. And heck, then you can take a guy like 1950's heavyweight, Ewart Potgieter, who even dwarves Valuev in physical stature.Comment
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I dont get this notion of "good athletes are in NBA and NFL"
WTF being a good athelete have to do with your ability to fight?
What do you define to be a good athelete?
I dont get it! Ronaldo couldnt do **** in American Football, does it make him a bad athelete?
Can Shaq play football? (soccer for you yanks), is he a bad athelete?
Its a ****** argument brought forth by the press to "validify" the state of the "weak" division due to absence of American domination. And thats the sad truth. None of this "good atheltes are in other sports" bull****. Its ****ing bull****.
A 12 year old kid, whose life is before him, is he going to think "I can make more money in NHL/NBA/NFL" and decide to play ****ing hockey instead of his interest in boxing because possibly he is the 1 in a million that will actually make it to the pro levels, so he might aswel choose the one that pays more money.
Go tell kids that the highest paying leagues are European Football leagues. Lets see them all buy soccer balls cause they pay well...Maybe you'll be the lucky one whose transfer price from one club to another will be worth 30 000 000$.
It's so funny that its sad that people are actually buying that bull**** cause journalists having nothing else to write about except tabloids on Britney exposing her waxed ***** with Paris Hilton in the drivers seat.Comment
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how many heavyweights today do you see that are 240+lbs and lean and mean, almost none. exceptions like wlad are few and far between. the nfl has got a good number of 250+ lbers out there who are lighting fast, strong as bulls, and have 32 inch wastelines. does it have anything to do with their ability to fight? **** no...but you could bet your ass that it'd help big time. and if these guys were lining up at boxing gyms around the country, chances are you're gonna find more than enough men who are indeed born fighters in the process.Last edited by Mistadobalina; 11-29-2006, 12:33 AM.Comment
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