Willie Pep and Floyd Mayweather

[kknd]

yes they doing it only for money!

[Benny Leonard]

yes they doing it only for money!

Never said "only for the money", but that is a large part of why you fight; Ego/Vanity, is an additional reason. Either way, if you fight for Ego, you know that when you get to the top, Money comes to you.

[kayjay]

It was funny to see some of Floyd's biggest haters posting that Pep, the man who won a round without throwing a single punch, was an all-time great while continuing to spew venom at Floyd. It just seems so ironic...

Dumbasses, Pep is dead and there's no reason for us to do anything but pay tribute to his greatness. Floyd is a current star who has disappointed of late and we expect much more of him. It's a difference kid, noit that we expect YOU to understand much.

[Benny Leonard]

Dumbasses, Pep is dead and there's no reason for us to do anything but pay tribute to his greatness. Floyd is a current star who has disappointed of late and we expect much more of him. It's a difference kid, noit that we expect YOU to understand much.

Floyd is disappointing, why?

Floyd has moved up in weight several times; the higher you go, the harder it becomes to dominate.

Hatton and Cotto didn't want to fight Floyd, not his fault. Floyd also tried to get a fight with Shane, didn't happen.

Oscar would whoop on both Hatton and Cotto so I would say fighting Oscar, even at this stage of his career, is much more dangerous. It has also proven to be great for boxing.

The whole point of the thread was to say, Why hate on Floyd for not knocking people out, not going toe to toe, when Willie Pep (known as one of the Greatest fighters of all time) doesn't get the same treatment from the media and fans.

Floyd had a good KO% when he was at the lighter weights. He went for knockouts. You also can't blame Floyd either, the guy has hurt his hands so much, he goes into a fight not sure if they will hold up.

Boxing is a "Science", right?
"Hit and don't get hit is the name of the Game"

[Guest]

Mayweather would pwn Pep's azz without a doubt. Haters just don't like the fact that Floyd is so grate, I'm sure that's what it is. LMAO, pwn!

[Guest]

It was funny to see some of Floyd's biggest haters posting that Pep, the man who won a round without throwing a single punch, was an all-time great while continuing to spew venom at Floyd. It just seems so ironic...

I always get a laugh when a fat Yank tries to use the word "ironic" in a sentence. What is it about this word that you ****ers just don't get? I know they don't offer fries and ketchup with irony, but it's really not that hard...

[kayjay]

I always get a laugh when a fat Yank tries to use the word "ironic" in a sentence. What is it about this word that you ****ers just don't get? I know they don't offer fries and ketchup with irony, but it's really not that hard...

They get it from the song by that cute but obnoxious singer who made a song called 'ironic' but in which none of the examples were instances of irony.

[Guest]

They get it from the song by that cute but obnoxious singer who made a song called 'ironic' but in which none of the examples were instances of irony.

I saw a pic of her in a bikini once. Definitely hadn't had a wax.

[BigSlick]

The average contender back then was about as good as a title holder these days. In Pep's day, the top 20 in a given division (except for heavyweight) were a tough bunch and could give the champion a run for his money, beat him on an off night. And not like how it is with the heavyweights today with no one caring or showing up in shape. It's just that the level of skill was so high, the fighters so sharp and experienced by the time they got to that level, that this was true.

James Toney is hands down the most skilled guy (as in the deepest skillset) in the sport today IMO. Put him in Pep's era and there would be a handful of guys alive who could match him in skill and some (like Pep) who exceeded him.

The sport was just plain better, to put it succintly. More participants, better prepared and more skilled fighters, the living was tougher and the food they ate wasn't processed like it is today. Fighting is the one sport that has actually GOTTEN WORSE since the 1980's. Even the 1980's were on the decline compared to the 60's 50's and 40's IMO. This is what I see with my eyes. I see better and stronger athletes, on average, but much, much worse fighters. Mentally those guys just kick the **** out of today's fighters and boxing is 80% mental.

I agree with this post, I would add that the post WWII era fighters were made from different "stuff". The times were just different, man was just raised in a harsher enviroment so they were just tough sons of bitches.

[Guest]

IRONY, SATIRE, OMFG I am having brain freeze.

****ing English bastards with your words

Cat, Bat, Hat, please stick with those.

LOL

Yeah, we invented the language, mate. You just took the "u"s out of everything to make it quicker to order doughnuts.