Buy or Sell: Drawing the Color Line

[Ivich]

- - When did the US segregate itself?

How did some ****** become so erudite as their letters and publications show?

Frederick Douglas?

They even segregated their armed forces.When they tried that **** in the UK during WW2 Joe Louis refused to box before segregated crowds and got it changed overseas.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Frederick-Douglas

[billeau2]

I am with you regarding your personal experience. I in fact got my first (and only) position starting in mid year, as an AP teacher to a class that hadn't had a teacher in a month. Literally!

When a school in the northeast is as poorly funded as the one you describe there can be only two possibilities

That the State of New York isn't doing enough.

The money is being misappropriated.

I agree with CRT in principle, but believe the immediate problems have to be addressed immediately. E.g. education.

Truth be I don't see where there is any argument as to whether the past policies have embedded racisim into the system. It is of course, a no brainer.

Slavery --> Jim Crow --> civil rights--> had to leave behind an institutionsial racism, good and bad / malicious and bevolent.

What we (America, not you and I) are arguing about is whether we are going to talk about it.

There is enough government and money in place to address the immediate problems if only the leadership was there.

In regards to the long term we have consistently, for the past 160 years, moved towards equal opportunity not away from it.

CRT is just trying to push the issue further forward by making it a national dialouge. There is going to be some resistance to that. But I personally support it.

The real "problem" is the fork in the road where power divurges from knowledge... Knowledge is power, but... part of power is using anything as a means to an end. The power of this woke epistemological twig is NOT going to the real ***************. It is a way for the elite to throw shiat at each other... I just read an expose on the Trinity School in Manhattan and this is a perfect example. Different classes of the privaleged want to claim the *************** as their biatch... The teachers that grew up in white areas of the country with education and all the comforts want the arses of the stockbrokers who had the bigger houses on the blocks in places like Great Neck New York. It is a war... No different than when the mob starts shooting each other in a power struggle.

The prize is being the MC declaring that the Lord is below the Bondsman (Hegel). meanwhile it is business as usual as we see the woke lose it occasionally and insult the random person of color who happens to be going into their apartment building... hence we have "karens" the foot soldgers in this war of attrition.

Focault really demonstrated how existential knowledge is... a random crack in the epistemological fabric and we have combustion engines, not electric... We have Psychoanalysis, and prison reforms that come out of European revolutionary houses.,..But for a fission here and not there... CRT is just a fission extending the Marxist framework... it is so foreign to American thinking because we still don't have a decent University teaching marxism... like the rest of the world... And here we are.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ta...LtjPlDtjVJgTlX

[travestyny]

No you fool. If the students drop out of school and don't have family support, those schools won't do well in a raking sense. It's a losing culture and one that giving extra money to ( which is the CRT goal among other things ) won't work. I answered your question. You don't listen!

No one is talking about ranking sense, dumbass. And I'm pretty sure you know that. You are just trying anything to duck.


How the hell does CRT gain money. Care to explain.

You didn't answer any question at all. I'll keep asking you. Are the schools in the average Black neighborhoods the same quality as the schools in average white neighborhoods.


How about you make an informed opinion from this:

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Schools are still segregated, and black children are paying a price

Unaddressed school segregation is a major longstanding policy failure. It consigns most black children to schools that put them behind academically. The persistent performance gaps between white and black children that challenge the education and career prospects of black children from early on demonstrate that school segregation continues to cast a very long shadow—from well before Brown v. Board of Education to today, and into the future.

https://www.epi.org/publication/scho...aying-a-price/

You see the red right there? Can you figure out what that might mean, hmmm?


I'm going to keep hammering you with these studies until you stop being a bltch and admit what everyone already knows, dumbass



You must be one of those folks who are afraid for Black folks to have equally good schools, aren't you? I wouldn't be surprised. You've already proven that you're one of the dumbest members of this board, regardless of race, of course.

[travestyny]

- - When did the US segregate itself?

How did some ****** become so erudite as their letters and publications show?

Frederick Douglas?

The US segregated itself during slavery and further during Jim Crow and redlining.

Frederick Douglas is one of my favorite people in history, if not my favorite. His autobiography is phenomenal if you haven't read it.

He learned to read first from the White wife of his slave master, then from White children.

Here's a quote from him:

“Let colored children be educated and grow up side by side with white children, come up friends from unsophisticated and generous childhood together, and it will require a powerful agent to convert them into enemies, and lead them to prey on each other’s rights and liberties.”

[QueensburyRules]

They even segregated their armed forces.When they tried that **** in the UK during WW2 Joe Louis refused to box before segregated crowds and got it changed overseas.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Frederick-Douglas

- - Black troops fought honourably under US Grant in the Civil War along side white troops which means they inevitably mixed in the chaos of combat.

Buffalo soldiers rode with US troops in Western patrols.

I asked Teensy when "segregation" first occurred that he emphatically asserted happened.

Waiting on Godot...

[QueensburyRules]

The US segregated itself during slavery and further during Jim Crow and redlining.

Frederick Douglas is one of my favorite people in history, if not my favorite. His autobiography is phenomenal if you haven't read it.

He learned to read first from the White wife of his slave master, then from White children.

Here's a quote from him:

“Let colored children be educated and grow up side by side with white children, come up friends from unsophisticated and generous childhood together, and it will require a powerful agent to convert them into enemies, and lead them to prey on each other’s rights and liberties.”

- - I have his autobio, and when he and another little white urchin were running the streets of Baltimore up to no good similar to Babe Ruth decades later. The little urchin had books that he used to teach him the fundamentals. Don't recall the slave master white wife, but still a kid he bolted the plantation life with a clever escape plan and the rest history including his own white wife(s).

During slavery chosen ****** were integrated fully into white society as ******. Just think Ali/Frazier 1 promotion.

Mark Twain's family moved to a relative's plantation where he grew up daily in the slave quarters. He made stars out of some in his publications.

I told you my own neighborhood was redlined.

I don't think you can find a definitive black/white segregation until some of these early Supreme rulings.

Saw a modern book for sale, paraphrasing the title, "Why Black Children segregate today at public school lunch hours.

[travestyny]

- - Black troops fought honourably under US Grant in the Civil War along side white troops which means they inevitably mixed in the chaos of combat.

Buffalo soldiers rode with US troops in Western patrols.

I asked Teensy when "segregation" first occurred that he emphatically asserted happened.

Waiting on Godot...

Queenie has obviously been hitting the bottle again.


I answered you clearly. Slavery, jim crow, redlining.


Do you understand that, or do I have to mention it a 3rd time, wino?

[travestyny]

- - I have his autobio, and when he and another little white urchin were running the streets of Baltimore up to no good similar to Babe Ruth decades later. The little urchin had books that he used to teach him the fundamentals. Don't recall the slave master white wife, but still a kid he bolted the plantation life with a clever escape plan and the rest history including his own white wife(s).

During slavery chosen ****** were integrated fully into white society as ******. Just think Ali/Frazier 1 promotion.

Mark Twain's family moved to a relative's plantation where he grew up daily in the slave quarters. He made stars out of some in his publications.

I told you my own neighborhood was redlined.

I don't think you can find a definitive black/white segregation until some of these early Supreme rulings.

Saw a modern book for sale, paraphrasing the title, "Why Black Children segregate today at public school lunch hours.

Were there covenants that stated people were forbidden to sell homes to you or your family because of your race?

Racial covenants, a relic of the past, are still on the books across the country

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/17/10490...discrimination

CRT seems to have a point, once again.

[QueensburyRules]

They actually called Sam Langford "The Boston Tar Baby" in the press? How TF did he not sue back then? Dude, that's just disgusting. Aren't incidents like that why the NAACP was created in the first place?

- - Uncle Remus' favorite character was The Tar Baby, an innocuous inanimate scarecrow grinning in a field that invited fights that he always won, a hero of sorts.

Uncle Tom was the hero in Harriet Beecher's Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin credited for sparking the Civil War. She'd be appalled at the misanthropic misapplication of his name in modern black culture.

What else you need to know?

[Ivich]

- - Black troops fought honourably under US Grant in the Civil War along side white troops which means they inevitably mixed in the chaos of combat.

Buffalo soldiers rode with US troops in Western patrols.

I asked Teensy when "segregation" first occurred that he emphatically asserted happened.

Waiting on Godot...

I don't know when it first occurred only that it did.
Black troops under white officers fought in the Civil war ,but not I believe alongside White Union troops
Buffalo soldiers were segregated from White units and had separate barracks facilities etc .
Black soldiers were not allowed in combat inWW1
I think they were relegated to transport and non combat roles in WW2 as well,but I havent made a study of it,
Joe Louis and Ray Robinson while in the uniform of the US Army got into an altercation with White MPs for using a Whites only phone on their Army base.
Audiences to watch Louis give exhibitions were segregated in the US ,when the US Army tried to enforce that in the UK Louis got it dropped.
The **** Black people had to endure in the US is a shameful part of its history.The UK has its own shameful history ,events that occurred during its "Empire days" Belgium is another with a brutal colonial past.
When Floyd Patterson first visited the South he took photos of the separate drinking fountains,and the Whites only signs.
When Dorothy Dandridge the entertainer took a swim in the pool of a hotel she was working in the guests had it drained.
The mind set of some of these bigots is unbelievable, and if we did not have the proof of it throughout history it would be viewed as not credible.