Andrew Golota vs Joe Frazier

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  • DeeMoney
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    #31
    I think the question being posed here exposes the issue with creating a mythical matchup between someone in their prime (Frazier) vs someone based on just a fight or two (Golota). Essentially you have too small of a sample size of Golota to evaluate against Frazier. Are we to assume that the Golota who fought against Bowe in the second fight is THAT much different than the one who fought against Lewis less than a year later? If so, why? What changed in those months? Because I doubt anyone is saying that Golota is putting up much against Frazier.

    Additionally, I think the comparison of Golota's size to Foreman's size and thus equating Golota to Foreman is a mistake. Yes, Golotas size would be an advantage, but I dont see it being that much of a difference. Especially when you consider what Golota showed to be in the months surrounding the Bowe fight.

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      #32
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      Not sure what your posting because the fight I’m talking about has Bowe is mainting center ring mostly and pushing Golota back ,I just posted the two fights and what was the major exchanges which shows pressure which is going forward . In fact Bowe when pressuring Golota was the time he got caught coming in so me posting videos without you really watching them makes you look even less intelligent and post another fight with no relevant meaning really .

      Edit : You have way to much time invested on trying to be correct so here we go again . And you want me to think Frazier is capable of pushing Golota back as if it’s going to be easy when he’s around 30 pounds less or so then a Bowe ? Ha

      You’re entitled to your opinion of any fantasy match but not blatantly lying when i just posted a fight showing what I stated .
      Again, you prolly took an occurance, and based your opinion on it... and did not watch the entire fight. Yes I did watch them and you who posted them did not, no suprize ha! Golota controls the ring...Not always, but most of the time. Then you can see how he fought Gonzalez, where he is constantly coming forward...

      Can you see a difference idiot? Ha!

      Dude, aside from on a universal level, as applied to all sentient life... I could not give two f uck s what you think. Frazier did not "push people back!" WAtch tapes of FRazier!!! Learn something!!!! Jesus H christ lol Ha!

      Its on the tape. Please stay in the general section you r e t a r d. Ha! Ha hahahhahha

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        #33
        Originally posted by billeau2
        Again, you prolly took an occurance, and based your opinion on it... and did not watch the entire fight. Yes I did watch them and you who posted them did not, no suprize ha! Golota controls the ring...Not always, but most of the time. Then you can see how he fought Gonzalez, where he is constantly coming forward...

        Can you see a difference idiot? Ha!

        Dude, aside from on a universal level, as applied to all sentient life... I could not give two f uck s what you think. Frazier did not "push people back!" WAtch tapes of FRazier!!! Learn something!!!! Jesus H christ lol Ha!

        Its on the tape. Please stay in the general section you r e t a r d. Ha! Ha hahahhahha
        Golota is much stronger then a Gonzalez. Maybe that’s why he was able to press forward and Bowe could not get a knockout win ? Did this thought ever occur to you ?

        Edit : I posted Bowe pressuring Golota before getting stunned so not sure what else to say . You want to be right and have more invested in this so you got to spin things, I get it . But you can’t pull one over on anyone who actually is showing what you think as opposed to what’s happening. Bowe actually still was pressing after being knocked down because he himself got multiple knockdowns didn’t he by coming forward with barrages in points of the fight ? Ha
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2020, 09:05 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by REDEEMER
          Golota is much stronger then a Gonzalez. Maybe that’s why he was able to press forward and Bowe could not get a knockout win ? Did this thought ever occur to you ?

          I posted Bowe pressuring Golota before getting stunned so not sure what else to say . You want to be right and have more invested in this so you got to spin things, I get it . But you can’t pull one over on anyone who actually is showing what you think as opposed to what’s happening.
          does not work that way fool, study the sport. Not sure what else to say? How bout nuthin?

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            #35
            Originally posted by billeau2
            does not work that way fool, study the sport. Not sure what else to say? How bout nuthin?
            How about just look at Bowe pressing Golota back ,isn’t that much easier then having no logic or point to the discussion ? Did Golota trip or was he knocked down with an incoming Bowe in that fight ? One that for the most part had the advantage of going forward . Do you even know what constitutes as pressure ? I guess not .

            How does boxing work ? By stating lies and think that’s how you win debates,I mean you already admitted to not watching the video I posted then posted another one which had nothing to do with the discussion which tells me you must be the little kid that covers his ears and shouts in this section ? Ha
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2020, 09:26 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by uncle ben
              The Golota of the Bowe fights vs prime Frazier
              The funny thing is you are asking for the Golota of the Bowe fight which I’m answering and you have head cases throwing all kinds of other Golota fights and posting non related fighters like Gonzalez to get Frazier more leverage ? What ? Ha

              Edit : Wow I thought the other sections were bad ,this one took desperation to another level billeau2 joseph5620 like fantasy fights were life and death on here to be right . Well I know where to go if the main one gets stale that’s for sure plenty of entertainment here to dissect . Ha
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2020, 09:44 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                The funny thing is you are asking for the Golota of the Bowe fight which I’m answering and you have head cases throwing all kinds of other Golota fights to get Frazier more leverage ?

                Wow I thought the other sections were bad ,this one took desperation to another level billeau2 joseph5620 like fantasy fights were life and death on here to be right . Ha
                There is no contest being right against your inanity...Troll, go to Churl of the month...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  How about just look at Bowe pressing Golota back ,isn’t that much easier then having no logic or point to the discussion ? Did Golota trip or was he knocked down with an incoming Bowe in that fight ? One that for the most part had the advantage of going forward . Do you even know what constitutes as pressure ? I guess not .

                  How does boxing work ? By stating lies and think that’s how you win debates,I mean you already admitted to not watching the video I posted then posted another one which had nothing to do with the discussion which tells me you must be the little kid that covers his ears and shouts in this section ? Ha
                  No... I said I did watch the video lol. Read the posts troll. Using my correct observation and parroting it, directing it towards me does not make you right, it makes you pathetic.

                  Ha biatch!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by billeau2
                    There is no contest being right against your inanity...Troll, go to Churl of the month...
                    Then why do you continue to try and be right about it ? Must have hit a nerve ,you don’t respond well when presented with decent rebuttal, not just here but in the other sections to . The only thing you do effectively is try and discredit with names ,you are good at that but no one reading my posts is buying it even if they disagree with me on the outcome.

                    This poster here doesn’t even believe in rematches as he deems them the same out come it’s why he said Klitschko was not warranted a rematch against Fury and said Ruiz would always defeat AJ so that exposes what he actually gets wrong because that should be boxing 101 to anyone following the sport a long time knows that’s not true .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2020, 10:02 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by billeau2
                      No... I said I did watch the video lol. Read the posts troll. Using my correct observation and parroting it, directing it towards me does not make you right, it makes you pathetic.

                      Ha biatch!
                      What ? Ha ,you definitely lost the plot anyway ,don’t even know pressing a fighter is pressuring them in an act of making them go back and if you watched the video you not only have listening concerns but eye sight as well ?

                      Edit : either way I’m done here . Have a good one thanks for the laughs see you on the next one where I’ll be correcting you again I’m sure . I’ll let you have the last word since of course it’s not a competition to you ,right ? Ha
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2020, 10:04 PM.

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